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Charlie Munger made a contrarian bet at 99, doubling his money, and clashed with Elon Musk over taking risks, friend recalls

7 January 2025 at 04:10
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The late Charlie Munger (right) was Warren Buffett's business partner.

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  • A friend of Charlie Munger's says Munger doubled his money on a contrarian bet soon before his death.
  • The friend, Li Lu, gave an interview in which he discussed Munger's careful approach to investing.
  • Li also described dramatically different approaches to risk tolerance between Munger and Elon Musk.

Charlie Munger was still sniffing out bargains and scoring big gains at age 99, says a close friend of the late investing icon.

Munger, Warren Buffett's business partner and Berkshire Hathaway's vice chairman for more than four decades, died in late November 2023, about a month shy of his 100th birthday.

In a rare interview marking the first anniversary of Munger's death, Li Lu told the Chinese social network Zhenge Island that one of Munger's last moves was a contrarian bet.

"There was a stock that everyone disliked, and it might not be particularly politically correct," Li said. But that didn't stop Munger from studying the company and buying its shares, continued the Himalaya Capital Management founder, whom Munger once described as the "Chinese Warren Buffett."

"The week before he died, this stock had doubled from the time he started investing to that time," Li said. It's unclear which stock he was referring to. Li didn't immediately respond to a request for comment from Business Insider.

Li said the wager showed Munger retained his passion for investing until the end and "could still go against the market consensus and live to see this stock double." He said the stock remained "in the Munger family portfolio" and was "still performing very well."

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Li Lu was a close friend of Charlie Munger.

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Li was the only person apart from Buffett who Munger trusted to invest his family's money. He introduced Munger to BYD, the Chinese EV maker that's been one of Berkshire's best investments over the past decade.

Describing Munger's careful approach toward investing, in his interview with Zhenge Island he also seemed to allude to a story Munger had discussed at Daily Journal's annual meeting in 2017, saying Munger "read Barron's magazine every week for 50 years and only made one investment."

"In 50 years I found one investment opportunity in Barron's, out of which I made about $80 million with almost no risk," Munger said in 2017. "I took the $80 million and gave it to Li Lu, who turned it into $400 to $500 million. So I have made $400 to 500 million out of reading Barron's for 50 years and following one idea."

Munger added further details, indicating that the stock was an auto supply company named Tenneco that Apollo Global Management acquired in late 2022. He said that he made 15 times his money on the stock in about two years and that it took him only 90 minutes of research to pull the trigger after reading about it.

Lunch with Elon Musk

Li recalled a lunch with Munger and Elon Musk in which he said the Tesla and SpaceX CEO tried to win Munger's investment. He said the discussion showed their similar thinking on subjects such as batteries and science but also their stark differences in risk appetite. While Musk was willing to do things with only a 5% chance of success, he said, Munger "may need more than 80% chance of success before he will do it."

Musk has previously discussed meeting Munger. Early in 2023 he posted on X that "Munger could've invested in Tesla at ~$200M valuation when I had lunch with him in late 2008." Musk's automaker went on to become one of the world's largest companies and is now worth about $1.3 trillion.

"I was at a lunch with Munger in 2009 where he told the whole table all the ways Tesla would fail," Musk wrote in another post. "Made me quite sad, but I told him I agreed with all those reasons & that we would probably die, but it was worth trying anyway."

Correction: January 7, 2025 โ€” This story was updated to reflect that it wasn't clear from Li Lu's interview where Charlie Munger got the idea for the contrarian bet that Li said Munger made at age 99. The story also misstated when Elon Musk posted one of his comments about Munger. It was in early 2023, not early last year.

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Warren Buffett dumped stocks, built a $300 billion cash pile, and updated his death plan in 2024. Here are his 6 highlights.

5 January 2025 at 01:33
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Warren Buffett is CEO of Berkshire Hathaway.

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  • Warren Buffett paid tribute to Charlie Munger and pared his Apple and Bank of America bets in 2024.
  • Berkshire Hathaway hit a $1 trillion market value and its cash pile ballooned to more than $300 billion.
  • Buffett donated some $6 billion to good causes and updated his plan for post-mortem giving.

Warren Buffett had a year to remember in 2024 as he sold two of his favorite stocks, built his cash pile to more than $300 billion, and led Berkshire Hathaway to a $1 trillion market value for the first time.

The 94-year-old Berkshire CEO and legendary investor also paid credit to his late right-hand man, gifted more than $6 billion to good causes, and updated his plan to give away his fortune following his death.

Here are Buffett's 6 highlights of 2024:

1. Paying respects
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Warren Buffett writes a letter to Berkshire shareholders every February.

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In his annual letter in February, Buffett paid tribute to Charlie Munger, his business partner and Berkshire's vice chairman for more than four decades, who died aged 99 in November 2023.

"Though I have long been in charge of the construction crew; Charlie should forever be credited with being the architect," Buffett wrote, calling himself the "general contractor" who carried out Munger's vision for Berkshire.

Buffett also dashed hopes for a transformative acquisition anytime soon. Berkshire's vast scale means only a few companies in the country could move the needle, he said, and all of them have been "endlessly picked over by us and others."

"All in all, we have no possibility of eye-popping performance."

The investor also called out a rise in "casino-like behavior" in markets and appeared to take aim at trading apps like Robinhood once again. "The casino now resides in many homes and daily tempts the occupants."

2. Pilgrimage to Omaha
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Warren Buffett's annual meeting serves as a showcase for Berkshire-owned brands like See's Candies.

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Tens of thousands of Berkshire shareholders descended on Buffett's hometown in May to attend the company's annual meeting and watch the "Oracle of Omaha" hold court for several hours.

Buffett told the crowd he'd sold a chunk of his massive Apple stake in the first quarter. He also compared artificial intelligence to nuclear weapons, and took responsibility for a losing wager on Paramount.

The Berkshire boss said he regretted not listening to Munger and betting big on Costco decades ago. He also raised the alarm on the national debt and budget deficit, dismissed foreign threats to the dollar, and declared he could earn a 50% annual return on $1 million.

3. Stocks, cash, and buybacks
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Berkshire Hathaway built a cash pile worth more than $300 billion in 2024.

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Buffett and his team sold $133 billion of stocks in the first nine months of 2024, and bought less than $6 billion worth. In comparison, they sold a net $24 billion of stocks in 2023, and purchased a net $34 billion of stocks in 2022.

They spent less than $3 billion on buybacks between January and September last year, with none in the third quarter, after spending nearly $70 billion on repurchases over the previous four years (almost $52 billion of that was in 2020 and 2021.)

Ramping up stock sales and curbing buybacks helped to nearly double Berkshire's cash pile in nine months from $168 billion to a record $325 billion (or $310 billion after subtracting almost $15 billion of payables for Treasury bill purchases in the third quarter).

Berkshire's cash pile now exceeds the total value of the company just over a decade ago, and accounted for a hefty 27% of its $1.15 trillion of assets at the end of September.

Buffett and his colleagues have said they're stacking cash because they're struggling to find bargains with valuations at historic highs, and they don't mind keeping money out of an ebullient stock market.

4. Selling sacred cows
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Warren Buffett and his team pared core holdings such as Apple and Bank of America in 2024.

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Buffett and his investment managers, Ted Weschler and Todd Combs, made several striking changes to Berkshire's stock portfolio last year.

They pared Apple, their largest position, by 67% in nine months, reducing its value from $174 billion to below $70 billion. The sharp reduction shocked many as Buffett had showered praise on the iPhone maker for years, hailing it as "probably the best business I know in the world" and one of Berkshire's "four giants."

Buffett and his deputies also cut Bank of America, their no. 2 position, by about 26% between mid-July and mid-October, collecting more than $10 billion of proceeds. The sales lowered their stake from above 13% to below 10%, freeing them from having to disclose changes to the holding within a couple days. Their stake only dropped in value from $35 billion to $32 billion between January and September because the bank's stock price rose by around a fifth during that period.

Berkshire also revealed a near-$7 billion stake in insurer Chubb in its first-quarter portfolio update, trimmed holdings such as Capital One in the second quarter, and bought nearly 4% of Domino's Pizza in the third quarter while cutting several smaller holdings.

5. Giving billions
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Warren Buffett had donated more than $55 billion of stock to five foundations since 2006.

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Buffett donated Berkshire shares worth $5.3 billion to the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and four of his family's foundations in June.

He said those gifts meant he'd now given $55 billion to the quintet over the previous 18 years, based on how much the Berkshire shares were worth at the time of giving.

Buffett divvied up a further $1.2 billion stock donation among the four family foundations in late November, continuing a Thanksgiving tradition he started in 2022.

The latest donations reduced his number of A shares to a little more than 206,000, meaning he's given away almost 57% of his shares since pledging 99% of them to good causes in 2006.

6. Estate planning
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Warren Buffett published a mini letter to Berkshire shareholders in November.

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Buffett unexpectedly published a near-1,500 word letter to shareholders alongside the news of his Thanksgiving gift.

In it, he reiterated his desire to pass along his incredible wealth to "others who were given a very short straw at birth."

Buffett revealed earlier in the year that he planned to put almost his entire fortune in a trust, and task his three children with distributing it to worthy causes after he dies. But in his mini letter in November, he acknowledged that his kids are in their late 60s and early 70s and might die before they can fulfill his vision.

The investor said that risk had led him to designate three potential successor trustees to be "on the waitlist" just in case.

Buffett also took stock of the astounding scale of wealth in America, where more than a dozen people including him are personally worth in excess of $100 billion.

"It has been mind-blowing โ€” beyond the imaginations of Ford, Carnegie, Morgan or even Rockefeller," he wrote. "Billions became the new millions."

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