• Nick Lachey and his wife, Vanessa, host Netflix's "Love is Blind" together.
• He says they follow a "golden rule" that keeps their marriage strong, even while working together.
• "Try and keep it as separate as you can," Nick Lachey said.

Working with your spouse isn't easy, and that's why Nick Lachey and his wife, Vanessa, have a strict rule about mixing business and their personal lives.

During an appearance on Wednesday's episode of "Richer Lives by SoFi" podcast, Lachey spoke about what it's like to co-host "Love is Blind" with his wife.

"I think the best thing you can do is not bring your work home with you," Lachey told host Vivian Tu. "Which is tricky when you work with your spouse, you know, and I think we do a really good job of doing that for the most part."

The 98 Degrees boy band member says that he and his wife try to set clear boundaries: Whatever happens at work stays at work, and vice versa.

"Sometimes you show up for work and there's an argument at home that you brought with you to work, and you don't want that to bleed over," he said.

"I think it's kind of good to compartmentalize and recognize that, you know, you're here doing a job," he said.

The couple started dating in 2006 and got married in 2011. They share three children together.

They began hosting Netflix's "Love is Blind" in 2020, now in its eighth season. In 2022, they also started hosting another Netflix reality dating show together, "The Ultimatum: Marry or Move On."

"So, I think that's our golden rule. It's 'Don't bring work home. Don't bring home to work.' Try and keep it as separate as you can," Lachey said.

In a joint interview with Brides in February, the couple shared that they go to marriage therapy and set aside two days a week to prioritize their relationship.

"Anything that's worth having takes work," Lachey told Brides. "To me, that's a cornerstone of life, and marriage is no different. There's no shame in that."

Lachey isn't the only star sharing insights on what it takes to maintain a strong relationship with their spouses.

Jay Shetty and his wife run a business together, and like the Lacheys, they avoid talking about work over dinner.

Gordon Ramsay and his wife, Tana, make it a point to dress up and go on regular date nights.

On the other hand, there are celebrity couples who would rather not work with each other — like Usher and his music executive wife.

Representatives for the Lacheys did not immediately respond to requests for comment sent by BI outside regular hours.

• Lindsay Lohan says it's easier to stick to her routine as a mother while living in Dubai.
• "I get the privacy, I get the peace, I get the space. I don't have to worry there; I feel safe," she said.
• Other celebrities, like Jessica Biel and Justin Timberlake, have also left LA for privacy reasons.

Lindsay Lohan says she has fewer worries and finds it easier to stick to her routine as a mother while living in Dubai.

In an interview with Elle published on Tuesday, the actor, 38, spoke about her return to acting while juggling her duties as a mom.

The "Freaky Friday" star welcomed a son, Luai, with her husband, Bader Shammas, in July 2023. The couple met in Dubai and has been together since 2020.

"I love having a routine, and I like schedules. So, my morning routine: Waking up, writing in my journal, sipping my green tea, breakfast with my son. And then Pilates, making sure I go," Lohan told Elle.

Since becoming a mother, her daily life now mostly revolves around her family, especially her son.

"It's all about balance and, as I said, routine. Especially when you have a kid, routine is the most important thing. And whatever their routine is, I've got to live by that," Lohan said.

But it's difficult to continue with her routine whenever she is in Los Angeles due to the paparazzi.

"It's hard in LA. Even taking my son to the park in LA, I get stressed. I'm like, 'Are there cameras?' In New York, there's no worry; no one bothers us. Everyone has their own thing going on," Lohan said.

She prefers to have downtime in New York but admits Los Angeles has its perks — like all that space, she added.

"But I'm thinking as I'm saying this, the funny thing is, in Dubai I get all of those things. I get the privacy, I get the peace, I get the space. I don't have to worry there; I feel safe," Lohan said.

Lohan relocated to Dubai in 2014, stepping away from the Hollywood spotlight after years of public scrutiny. In the United Arab Emirates, it is against the law to take photos or videos of someone without their consent, even in a public space.

In March 2024, she told Bustle that she left the US because she felt like her work was being overshadowed by the paparazzi.

"I feel like that kind of took on a life of its own. So that's why I wanted to disappear. I was like, 'Unless there's no story here, they're not going to focus on just my work,'" Lohan said.

Lohan isn't the only Hollywood celebrity who has spoken about leaving Los Angeles due to privacy and safety concerns.

Jessica Biel and Justin Timberlake left the city to shield their kids from the paparazzi. Since 2018, they have been living mostly in Tennessee and Montana.

Josh Hartnett told The Guardian in a July 2024 interview that he moved to the English countryside due to several run-ins with stalkers while living in Los Angeles.

A representative for Lohan had no additional comments for this story.

• There is a downside to living such a long life like Dick Van Dyke.
• "He's outlived everybody," his wife Arlene, 53, said. "That's the curse of living to almost 100."
• As the world faces an aging population, loneliness among older adults is becoming a growing public health concern.

Dick Van Dyke may be 99 years old and leading an active life, but longevity comes with its own set of challenges too.

During a "Dick & Arlene Van Dyke Present Vandy Camp" event in California, the actor and his wife, Arlene, spoke about the heartbreaking reality that comes with him living to almost 100.

Van Dyke reflected on the death of his longtime friend Ed Asner and shared that they were supposed to remake "The Odd Couple," a 1965 Broadway play about two roommates that has been adapted into a movie and a TV sitcom over the years. Asner died in 2021 at the age of 91.

"That would've been such fun, and we lost it. I've lost a lot of friends," Van Dyke said, per People.

"He's outlived everybody," his wife, 53, said. "That's the curse of living to almost 100."

Despite losing so many friends and costars over the years, the "Mary Poppins" star is "still so positive," she said.

"Well, life's been good to me. I can't complain," he added.

This isn't the first time that Van Dyke has spoken about aging and longevity.

In a 2023 CBS interview, the "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang" actor said he would have taken better care of himself if he had known he was going to live such a long life. He also reflected on outliving his friends Norman Lear, who died a few weeks before the interview, and Carl Reiner, who died in 2020 at 98.

"Everybody I knew and worked with, there's no one left," Van Dyke said.

In 2024, Van Dyke told Entertainment Tonight that regular exercise has been the "secret" to his longevity.

"I've often tried to think, 'What did I do to live this long?' and I can't figure out," he said. "The only thing is I've always exercised. We still go to the gym three days a week and work out."

According to the CDC, the average life expectancy in the US is 74.8 years for males and 80.2 years for females.

However, the number of centenarians in the US is projected to increase from 107,000 in 2025 to about 444,000 in 2055, per estimates from the United States Census Bureau.

But living that long often means outliving friends, partners, and peers, making loneliness a growing concern among older Americans.

Additionally, Rose Anne Kenny, a professor at Trinity College Dublin whose work focuses on aging, said that research has shown that having social interactions and good friendships could be as important as exercise and diet for longevity.

Several baby boomers told BI that they are finding budget-friendly ways to maintain a healthy social life, including taking up new hobbies and returning to work.

A representative for Van Dyke did not immediately respond to a request for comment sent by BI outside regular hours.

• Claudia Woodham was burned out from her 9-to-5 in the UK, so she quit to travel.
• After four years living out of a suitcase, she and her partner decided to settle down in Koh Samui, Thailand.
• Island life is slower and more fulfilling — she has more time for herself, her hobbies, and watching the sunsets.

In her 20s, Claudia Woodham decided to quit her job in Manchester to travel abroad.

She had a degree in marketing, but low starting salaries in the field had led her to take a job at a bank instead. But the 9-to-5 corporate lifestyle left her feeling stressed and unfulfilled, and she knew she had to get out.

What began as a yearlong trip through Southeast Asia and Australia with her partner, Danny, turned into four years of full-time travel. But eventually, the two of them craved something more permanent.

"We kind of got sick of living out of the suitcase, so we just tried settling down in different locations," Woodham, now 31, a marketing strategist and content creator, told Business Insider.

They were looking for a laid-back vibe, sunshine, and a place that wasn't overrun with tourists. So they tried living in Bali, Vietnam, and even Lisbon, but none of them felt like a good fit.

They remembered how much they had enjoyed Thailand — the first stop on their journey — and decided to give it a shot.

They lived in Phuket for a month but didn't like it very much, so they set their sights on Koh Samui, the third-largest island in the country.

Samui had been a short pitstop at the beginning of their trip. The two nights they had spent there had been rainy, preventing them from getting the full experience. "We didn't really think of this as a place to live for a really long time," she said.

But they heard others raving about life on Samui, so they decided to give it a go.

As it turned out, it only took three months of living in Samui to change their minds.

Finding a slice of paradise in the tropics

Samui, located in the Gulf of Thailand, is known for its stunning beaches and waterfalls. It has a population of about 70,000 people, per the latest April government data.

It was also most recently featured in the third season of HBO's hit series "The White Lotus."

In addition to the island's natural beauty and landscapes, Woodham said the people also drew them there.

"The community here is amazing. The expat community, but also the locals, are so friendly," she said.

Moreover, Samui has all the charm of a relaxed beach town and the comforts of modern living. The island is serviced by several private hospitals and an international airport.

"Even though it's island life, it's also quite built-up," she said. "There's a lot of infrastructure, so there's great WiFi. You can get everything you need here. You don't feel like you are too remote."

It's been two years since Woodham and her partner started living in Samui.

They spent the first year near Bo Phut, a popular but laid-back neighborhood on the northeast part of the island. They rented a three-bedroom townhouse with a shared pool for 70,000 baht a month.

During their second year, they were ready for a change. They wanted a sea view and a private pool, and found the perfect place listed on Facebook Marketplace.

The four-bedroom villa is located atop a hill in the northwest region of Samui, surrounded by lush greenery and overlooking the ocean.

There's a quiet beach nearby, and the villa's off-the-beaten-path location adds to the sense of privacy and tranquility.

"We didn't really need as many bedrooms as we have here," she said. "But we wanted somewhere kind of modern with nice interiors, and this place had that," Woodham said.

The only catch is that their neighborhood is a little further away from their gym, their friends, and their usual hangout spots — all of which are back in Bo Phut.

Rent is 140,000 Thai baht — about $4,000 a month — which is twice what she paid at her previous place.

Woodham says she gets mixed reactions about her rent whenever the topic comes up, especially on social media, where she posts content about her life in Samui.

"I think people come to Thailand expecting to live on a budget, which you can. I think Thailand's a great country for that," she said. "But the way I see it is, yes, you can live on a budget, but you can also live how you want and get more for your money."

In parts of the UK, something like this would easily cost £10,000 to £15,000 a month, if not more, she added.

Rather than assuming everything in Thailand should be dirt cheap, she urges people to visit and see the real value for themselves.

Typical workday and 5-to-9 life in Koh Samui

A typical day for Woodham in Samui starts at around 6 a.m., and that involves waking up naturally — no alarms involved.

After sharing a cup of coffee with her partner by the pool, the couple takes their dog, Leo, on a walk.

Woodham usually hits the gym around 8:30 a.m., spending an hour or two working out before heading to a café — sometimes with a friend — to catch up on work.

She is self-employed, and she helps online businesses with their social media marketing and sales strategy.

By the afternoon, she's back home, where she might take a few calls or continue working. As the day winds down, it's time to unplug and head to the beach to catch the sunset.

It's a far cry from her 9-to-5 corporate life back in the UK.

"Back then, I would wake up at 5 a.m. but struggle to get up. I'd be so tired, go to the gym in the dark, commute to work, spend all day at work, get home, maybe cook dinner, or maybe prep food for the next day, and then that'll be it," Woodham said.

Now, she has more time for herself and her hobbies, such as badminton, padel, and yoga. She also picked up CrossFit, learned how to do handstands, and is training for a Hyrox competition in Bangkok.

Her hobbies also helped her form a social circle, although it was challenging to get to know people at first.

"I actually met most of my friends through my CrossFit gym," she said. "But I also meet people through friends now, because everybody knows each other. You kind of meet people through other people."

She misses her family and being able to take a long walk through the countryside, but she doesn't see herself living in the UK again.

"Sometimes I think it would be nice to take Leo on those kinds of walks because the countryside in the UK can be beautiful on a nice day. It's so hot here, he can only walk for a short amount of time," she said.

"But I don't miss it enough to make me want to go back."

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• Kate Winslet's daughter, Mia Threapleton, 24, says she "never had" social media and doesn't want it.
• The Gen Z actor previously said her mom told her to write a list of pros and cons before joining Instagram.
• Winslet herself has also been vocal about the harmful impact of social media on children.

Mia Threapleton, 24, says her mother, Kate Winslet, influenced her decision not to have social media.

In an interview with Elle published on Thursday, the actor spoke about her upbringing and how her famous mother shaped her decision to live a private life.

Threapleton told Elle that she doesn't have any social media accounts and doesn't plan on creating them anytime soon.

"People say, 'Oh, well done,' to not having it, but I've never had it, so I don't really know what the 'Well done' is for. I don't want it. I don't want to worry about dropping my phone out of a tree if I'm climbing one because I'm trying to take a photo of something," Threapleton said.

Part of it comes from the intense public scrutiny her mother faced at the height of her "Titanic" fame. Winslet has spoken multiple times about how she felt bullied and bodyshamed by the media after the movie came out.

Threapleton said her mother made a point to instill body confidence from a young age, including times when she was insecure about showing her shoulders while swimming.

"My mom said, 'No, this is strong. So many people would love to be able to swim the length of the pool the way you do — think of it as a positive thing,'" Threapleton said, recalling her mother's words.

This isn't the first time that Threapleton has spoken about how her mother played a role in her decision not to use social media.

In a May 17 interview with The Times, Threapleton said her mother encouraged her to make a list of pros and cons for joining Instagram when she was 14.

"The cons completely outweighed the pros for me. That was quite a clarifying moment. Since then, the more time I spend in this world, the more I'm really happy that I don't have it," she said.

Winslet herself has also been vocal about the harmful impact of social media on kids.

In 2023, during an appearance on BBC Radio 4's "Woman's Hour," the "Little Children" actor spoke about why she believes kids shouldn't have social media and smartphones.

"It's tampering with, sometimes, a very basic level of self-esteem. But on a bigger and darker scale, it's tampering with young people's self-esteem to the extent that they are completely losing a sense of who they are, and don't know how to communicate not just with their friends but their families," Winslet said.

Several countries around the world are trying to implement stricter controls on social media use for kids.

In November, Australia's government approved a law banning social media for children under 16. Norway also announced last year that it was exploring a sweeping social-media ban for children under 15.

Representatives for Threapleton and Winslet did not immediately respond to requests for comment sent by Business Insider outside regular hours.

• At 25, Martina Smidova felt there had to be more to life than the daily grind of a 9-to-5 job.
• She quit her corporate job in the Czech Republic to travel around Asia before settling down in Thailand.
• Living in Koh Samui made her realize she didn't have to follow a conventional life path.

This as-told-to essay is based on a conversation with Martina Smidova, a 29-year-old digital nomad living in Koh Samui, Thailand. It has been edited for length and clarity.

At 25, I felt trapped in my corporate job.

I was working 9-to-5 as a project manager in the automotive field in the Czech Republic. With an hourlong commute each way, it felt like I was always either at work or on my way there.

One day, it hit me: There has to be another way to live. So I quit.

I decided to find a remote job and live abroad. I didn't have a plan B. I told myself that I'd figure it out, and off I went to Asia. I'd visited before on vacation, and it felt like the right place to start over.

I spent half a year in Bali before traveling around the region, including to countries like Vietnam and Malaysia. But Thailand stuck with me the most.

It was the people, the food, and the lifestyle. I felt comfortable here — almost like home — so I decided to stay.

After spending time in Chiang Mai, about 450 miles north of Bangkok, and meeting my boyfriend in Phuket, we decided to move to Koh Samui together.

I wanted to experience island life but have access to modern amenities

Living in Samui, you have everything you need — plus peace and quiet.

There are parts of Samui that are well-developed and attract many tourists, but if you travel to the other side of the island, you'll find villages that feel frozen in time.

A year ago, my boyfriend and I moved into a two-bedroom condo in Bangrak, in the northeastern region of the island. We found it on Facebook Marketplace.

I knew I wanted to be in a good location. Even though it's a small island, I didn't want to travel an hour to get to the gym or somewhere else I needed to be.

We pay 55,000 Thai baht, or about $1,700, each month in rent. We have a common pool, but the view from the balcony sold me on the unit.

I have gotten to know some neighbors because I keep bumping into them, but because we are on such a holiday island, many of the apartments are Airbnbs.

It was hard for me to make friends

There are different communities of people on the island, but they are often a bit older than I am.

I met all of my friends either through the gym or through other friends. While the digital nomad community of young people is slowly growing, many don't stay for a long time. That's the sad part about this lifestyle — you meet amazing people and then they're gone.

But the locals are really open to helping you, so I reach out when I need something.

I do get by just by speaking English, but I believe my experience here would be much better if I could speak Thai — that's why I'm planning to learn the language.

My life here is so different from back home

Now I work in operational management. But since my clients are in Europe, I work European hours, which start at 2 p.m. in Thailand.

I have the whole morning to myself. I'll go to the gym, have a nice breakfast, head to a coffee shop, or meet up with my friends.

I start work in the afternoon and usually finish up around 6 or 7 p.m. Then it's time to have dinner or to go for a walk on the beach.

Back home, everybody was rushing. I saw stressed faces all the time, but it wasn't their fault.

In order to meet up with friends, you need to schedule it three months in advance because everyone's so busy. But here, people are so chill.

My mom came to Samui to visit me last year. It was her first time in Asia, and she experienced culture shock.

I remember driving her from the airport, and she asked me incredulously, "You like it here?" It took her two weeks on the island to change her mind, and in the end, she didn't want to leave.

Living abroad broadened my horizons

I'm going to be 30 soon, and I don't plan on having kids yet. I'm not sure if I ever will, and I think that's something that won't resonate with my friends back home.

Before I started traveling, I didn't think about it as a choice. You grow up, you get a career, then you get a family, and that's how life works.

When I started meeting people who made the decision to pursue different careers or not have families, I realized, "Oh, it's a choice."

I try to reflect on my life every now and then. I've been living in Thailand for four years, and even today, I still have moments when I can't believe that this is my life.

I don't plan on moving back in the foreseeable future. Of course, I miss my family, but I don't miss the lifestyle.

• Sofía Vergara, 52, knows what she wants in a partner.
• The "Griselda" star says dating someone with less money than her would be "a nightmare."
• Income disparity can impact romantic relationships, especially around power dynamics.

Sofía Vergara has a list of what she wants in a partner.

During an appearance on the May 14 episode of the "Today" show, the "Modern Family" actor reflected on her dating life and got candid about some of the traits she hopes her future partner will have.

"I want to say the basic stuff, like health and somebody that loves me," Vergara told hosts Jenna Bush Hager and Erin Andrews. "And somebody tall, handsome."

"I want somebody that has as much money as me or more, because if not, it's a nightmare. They end up resenting you. And I want somebody fun. I need fun in my life," Vergara added.

Vergara has been married twice. In July 2023, after seven years of marriage, Vergara and the actor Joe Manganiello announced they were divorcing. She was previously married to Joe Gonzalez.

A representative for Vergara did not respond to a request for comment sent by Business Insider.

How wealth can affect romantic relationships

Two therapists and one wealth psychologist told BI they've heard similar sentiments echoed by many of their affluent clients.

Income disparity can impact romantic relationships, particularly around power dynamics.

Lami Ronit, a wealth psychologist who runs her own practice from both California and London, told BI she has noticed a difference in how men and women handle being the higher earners in a relationship.

"Women who are the higher earners often face a double standard; they're expected to succeed, but not so much that it threatens traditional gender roles. Men, on the other hand, are typically socialized to feel more comfortable being the financial provider," Ronit said.

When those roles are reversed, both partners can struggle, since the woman may feel she has to downplay her success while the man may wrestle with pride or feelings of inadequacy, she said.

The challenge persists even in some progressive circles where gender norms have been disrupted, Matt Lundquist, the founder and clinical director of Tribeca Therapy, a New York-based psychotherapy center, told BI.

"While it might seem that wealth invites ease — and in many ways it can and should — it also becomes a space where individuals' histories with money and gender expectations play out," he said.

For instance, it could be an issue when one person sees their contributions to the relationship as being more valuable than the other because of the amount of money they possess or earn, Dana McNeil, a relationship therapist and the founder of The Relationship Place, a San Diego-based practice, told BI.

"Many wealthy partners may perceive they are entitled to exert more control and say in the relationship about how money is spent," she said.

This can sometimes cause the less wealthy partner or the one more financially dependent to resent having to rely on their partner's permission to make purchases.

"This feeling of dependence can create a parent/child dynamic that feels like a loss of freedom and autonomy," McNeil said.

How couples can navigate financial disparity

While there is no one-size-fits-all approach, fairness and clarity are key, Ronit said.

"When appropriate, I often recommend that couples talk about proportional contributions rather than equal ones. For example, each person could contribute a percentage of their income toward shared expenses," she said.

The goal is to avoid feelings of imbalance or resentment, Ronit added.

When it comes to splitting bills, McNeil says she often suggests her clients have three checking accounts: a personal one for each partner and a joint account for bills and common expenses like going out to dinner or buying groceries.

To make expectations clear, it's important for couples to talk about money "sooner rather than later," Lundquist said.

"At some point, all couples need to confront the reality that a significant part of the partnership is economic and address both the material and symbolic aspects of this," he said.

It's also important for each partner to determine what they want and understand the trade-offs that may accompany that.

"And on this count, I'll give Sofía Vergara great credit — she clearly knows what she wants," Lundquist added.

• Jane Goodall, 91, says she was objectified by her male peers early in her career.
• "Back then, all I wanted was to get back to the chimps. So if my legs were getting me the money, thank you legs," she said.
• While her experience happened years ago, gender inequality persists in the workplace.

Jane Goodall, 91, may be one of the world's leading primatologists now, but there was a time when she wasn't being taken seriously.

During an appearance on Tuesday's "Call Her Daddy" podcast, Goodall reflected on the challenges she faced in her decadeslong career.

Goodall told podcast host Alex Cooper that her love for animals started when she read "Tarzan of the Apes" as a child.

"Anyway, I knew there wasn't a Tarzan. But that's when my dream began," Goodall said. "I will grow up, go to Africa, live with wild animals, and write books — no thought of being a scientist."

Most people around her thought her dream was unrealistic, except her mother, she said.

"And everybody said, 'That's ridiculous. I mean, you don't have money. Africa's far away and you're just a girl,'" Goodall said.

Years later, Goodall appeared on the cover of National Geographic.

She recalled being objectified by others in the scientific community who said that her looks, not her research, earned her the spotlight.

"Well, some of the jealous male scientists would say, well, you know, she's just got this notoriety and she's getting money from Geographic, and they want her on the cover, and they wouldn't put her on the cover if she didn't have nice legs," Goodall said.

If someone had said that today, they'd be sued, she added.

"Back then, all I wanted was to get back to the chimps. So if my legs were getting me the money, thank you legs. And if you look at those covers, they were jolly nice legs," Goodall said.

The English conservationist acknowledged that things are different now.

"I did it by accepting that, in a way, they were right. So, thank you for giving me this advantage. It was good to give me that money," Goodall said. "I know that for me it was a long time ago. It was a different era. It wouldn't work today. "

While Goodall's experience may have unfolded years ago, gender inequality persists in the workplace.

Sexism at work comes in many forms, including wage disparities, stereotypes, and harassment.

Several female celebrities have also spoken up about the discrimination they faced in Hollywood.

In an interview with Porter magazine in November 2023, Anne Hathaway said she was told her career would "fall off a cliff" after she turned 35.

In January 2024, Sofia Vergara told the LA Times that her acting jobs were limited because of her "stupid accent."

Kathy Bates told Variety in September that she could have a long acting career only because she "wasn't a beauty queen."

A representative for Goodall did not immediately respond to a request for comment sent by Business Insider outside regular hours.

• Hailey Bieber says she experienced postpartum body dysmorphia after giving birth.
• It took her some time to accept that her body wouldn't look the way it used to.
• "You're not the same person that you were before. You change head to toe," she said.

Hailey Bieber is done pretending that becoming a new mom is easy.

In an interview with Vogue published on Tuesday, the Rhode Skin founder spoke about her childbirth and postpartum experiences. In August, she welcomed her son, Jack Blues, with her husband, Justin Bieber.

Bieber told Vogue that she struggled with postpartum body dysmorphia after giving birth.

"When people talk about 'bouncing back' — back where, because my hips are wider, my boobs are actually bigger than they were before. They did not go back. And great, I'll take it, but it's not the same body that it was before," Bieber said.

She added that she fell into the cycle of looking up mean comments online about her appearance, only to end up feeling even worse about herself.

It took her some time to accept that her body wouldn't look how it used to, she said.

"You're not the same person that you were before. You change head to toe. And I think there was a minute where I kept really hyper-fixating on getting back to what I was. And then I had to go through that acceptance of, I'm not going back. So it's really about how do I want to move forward? Who do I want to be?" Bieber said.

Her difficult postpartum journey was compounded by the internet rumours surrounding her marriage.

She said people speculating online that she was going through a divorce made it even worse. "I cannot even begin to explain it. It's a crazy life to live," she said.

"Being postpartum is the most sensitive time I've ever gone through in my life, and learning a new version of myself is very difficult," Bieber said.

Postpartum typically refers to the first six to eight weeks after giving birth. During that time, a lot changes in a woman's body. New moms might deal with things like breast engorgement or vaginal bleeding, and some also experience postpartum depression or postpartum anxiety.

Bieber isn't the only celebrity mom who has spoken about her postpartum experience.

Lindsay Lohan said in a March 2024 interview that she doesn't feel pressured to "snap back" to her old body after giving birth.

"I feel like everything always comes full circle again, so this is that moment, and this, too, shall pass," she said.

In a March interview, Ashley Tisdale said that welcoming her second child was a chance to experience motherhood again since she felt "robbed" of her first experience due to postpartum depression, or PPD.

A representative for Bieber did not immediately respond to a request for comment sent by Business Insider outside regular hours.

• Michelle Williams knows how challenging it is to be a working mother.
• She says balancing her career and motherhood is like figuring out "which master you're going to serve."
• "Because the truth is, if work is going well, somebody else is taking care of the kids," she said.

Michelle Williams knows balancing her acting career with being a mom is tough.

During a Monday appearance on the "Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard" podcast, Williams, 44, shared how she juggles life as a mother of four while keeping her acting career on track.

"Kids are such great life checkers. They force you to put your best self in front of them," she told podcast host Dax Shepard. "You can't abdicate your life and your work and your own desires, but you do have to put them in check and figure out which master you're going to serve."

The "Brokeback Mountain" star welcomed her first child, Matilda, in 2005 with her then-boyfriend, the late actor Heath Ledger. In 2020, she married director Thomas Kail, with whom she shares three children.

For her, being a working mom is about striking a careful balance — never letting her kids or her career go "unattended for too long."

"Because the truth is, if work is going well, somebody else is taking care of the kids. And if you're in a high point with your kids, the work is shoved to the side," Williams said.

"You can't be equally good at them at the exact same time, and you have to allow for that give and take, but then also replenish the other things. If you have a big period of being at home, you need to go back to what you've left unattended and put some light over there," she continued.

Williams says she also wants her kids to grow up seeing their mom work, which makes it hard to step away from her career for too long. However, the pull of being a mother is hard to resist.

"My best day with my children is better than my best day at work. I am more thrilled with that high than I am with a work high," she said.

This isn't Williams's first time speaking about being a working mom.

"So you have to figure it out because we have to stay in the workforce, even though it often feels like it's untenable. My heart obviously belongs to my children; they tug at it the most. But I really want to be able to have both," she told Entertainment Weekly in a January 2023 interview.

Other female Hollywood stars have also spoken up about balancing their personal and professional lives.

Naomi Watts, 56, said she tried freezing her eggs when she was in her early 30s to focus on her career.

"Because I came into it late — at least with my launching — I was told to work, work, work because it'll all be dried up at 40," Watts told Katie Couric in a January interview.

Cameron Diaz, who took a decadelong hiatus from Hollywood, said she spent those 10 years "trying to stay alive just like every other mother."

During Fortune's Most Powerful Women Summit 2024, she elaborated on her decision to stop acting.

"It really comes to: What are you passionate about? For me, it was to build my family," Diaz said.

A representative for Williams did not immediately respond to a request for comment sent by Business Insider outside regular hours.

• Jay Shetty says he avoids work talk over dinner with his wife, even though they have a joint business venture.
• Shetty and his wife, Radhi Devlukia, launched a sparkling tea brand together in 2022.
• "I love what I do, but when I'm with her, I just want to be with her," Shetty said.

For Jay Shetty and Radhi Devlukia, a strong relationship lies in setting boundaries.

During an interview with People, published on Friday, the "On Purpose" podcast host spoke about how he and his wife keep their marriage strong.

Shetty told People that they make sure to go on walks and have dinner together whenever they are in the same city.

Even though they collaborate professionally, he says he avoids work talk over their shared meals "because I love that when we are having dinner together at night, we're not talking about content."

"That's not because I don't love what I do. I love what I do, but when I'm with her, I just want to be with her," Shetty said.

The couple has been married since 2016. In August 2022, they launched Joyo, a sparkling tea brand. Less than a year later, Shetty announced on Instagram that they were rebranding Joyo to Juni.

Shetty says his best relationship tip involves "giving each other that freedom and no restriction, and then allowing yourself to fall in love again and again with the new version of that person."

This isn't the first time that Shetty has spoken about the dynamics of his relationship with his wife.

In February, during an appearance on his wife's podcast, "A Really Good Cry with Radhi Devlukia," the couple also spoke about how giving each other space and independence strengthened their relationship.

Devlukia shared that at the beginning of their relationship, she would always want Shetty to make decisions for her, but he would refuse.

"I think that was very interesting for me to reflect back on, because you really could have become a crutch for me, but you didn't allow yourself to do that. You were like 'No, no. Create your own life, do your own thing,'" Devlukia told Shetty.

Shetty told his wife that it was because he wanted her to be able to chase her dreams.

"I didn't want to be in a position ever with you that you would feel I achieved all of my goals, and that you didn't achieve yours. How would that be fair on either of us?" Shetty said.

Shetty isn't the only celebrity who has spoken about how they build and maintain strong relationships with their partners.

"Frasier" actor Kelsey Grammer says thinking of love as a "contact sport" helps keep the flame alive in his 14-year marriage.

Denise Richards says she and her husband book a staycation at least once a month to carve out quality time together.

Representatives for Shetty and Devlukia did not immediately respond to requests for comment sent by Business Insider.

• Michelle Obama says she made a rule with Barack that allowed her to tease him, but not vice versa.
• "I said, 'When I tease you, it's like, you know, it's like a love tap," she said.
• Playfulness in relationships, like teasing, can contribute to long-lasting bonds.

Only one Obama gets to crack the jokes in this relationship — and it's not the former US president.

During an appearance on Amy Poehler's "Good Hang" podcast on Tuesday, Michelle Obama spoke about the deal she struck with her husband, Barack Obama, about making fun of each other.

"See, we have a deal, Barack and I, in our marriage, and it started very early. It's like 'I can tease you, but you cannot tease me,'" Obama told Poehler.

"You know, so when he does, I was like, 'Oh, oh, oh, oh, wait a minute. What's going on here?' And he's like, 'I'm teasing you.' I was like, 'None of that,'" Obama said.

The former first lady joked that her husband is outnumbered at home, especially when she teams up with their two daughters.

"When me, Malia, and Sasha — all of us — are together, he doesn't stand a chance," Obama said. "We mercilessly go after him. So, yes, teasing is our love language, and I tell him that."

She added that teasing was her way of showing affection — a habit she picked up from her parents, especially her mother, who loved pulling pranks on her and her brother.

"I said, 'When I tease you, it's like, you know, it's like a love tap," Obama said, recalling her words to her husband.

A 2021 study found that playfulness among couples may be the key to a long relationship. Whether sharing a laugh or playing sports together, playfulness helps create a light, easygoing dynamic, Rachel Sussman, a relationship therapist who was not part of the study, previously told Business Insider.

"Everyone needs a respite from all the heaviness going on in the world," Sussman said.

The former US president is also known for his sharp sense of humor — he made plenty of dad jokes during his time in the office. More recently, during a speech at the Democratic National Convention last year, he made a size joke about then-GOP nominee Donald Trump that went viral.

A representative for Michelle Obama did not immediately respond to a request for comment sent by BI outside regular hours.

• Parents, forget the terrible twos — Hilary Swank is choosing to think of it as "teachable twos" instead.
• The actor welcomed her twins, Aya and Ohm, with her husband, Philip Schneider, in April 2023.
• "My thing is, I think it's really important to regulate yourself and just stay calm and hold space for them," she said.

Hilary Swank's twin toddlers are entering their terrible twos — but she's choosing to see it in a positive way instead.

"There are moments of it, but I call it the teachable twos," Swank, 50, told People.

"Because I feel like they're just in this place where they're recognizing so many new things," the actor said. "And it's gotta be really overwhelming to have everything that you see is new."

Since toddlers don't have logical reasoning skills yet, their behavior is often driven by their feelings, Swank said.

"So when you want something, you just want it, you don't have logical thinking skills. So to me, teachable twos is, I think, more fitting," she said.

The best way to approach her toddlers having a meltdown is to be patient.

"My thing is, I think it's really important to regulate yourself and just stay calm and hold space for them," she added.

Swank welcomed her twins, Aya and Ohm, with her husband, Philip Schneider, in April 2023, when she was 48 years old.

In September, Swank told Business Insider that she was glad to be an older mom.

"The person that I was in my 20s and even into my 30s would've been a very different mom than I am now," Swank said.

"I'm in a place where I just have a lot more patience and a lot more grace to give, not just my children, but others around me," she added. "I can give them so much more than I could have at that point."

Kristin Gallant and Deena Margolin, founders of Big Little Feelings, an online parenting platform, previously told BI they had several tips for dealing with toddler tantrums.

One key way to manage a tantrum-throwing child is to avoid negotiating with them and escalating the conflict. Instead, parents should try their best to channel their inner calm. However, it's also crucial that parents avoid invalidating their children's feelings, they said.

A representative for Swank did not immediately respond to a request for comment sent by BI outside regular hours.

• What began as a short trip to Bangkok ended with Antoinette Yvonne moving there alone in 2023.
• She is now living in a $660-a-month apartment with views of the Thai capital's skyline.
• She said that while things may cost less in Bangkok than in the US, people shouldn't assume everything is cheap.

When Antoinette Yvonne arrived in Bangkok in 2023, it was supposed to be just a two-week trip.

It was her second visit to Thailand's capital city, but this time, something clicked. Those two weeks stretched into three months, and by the end of that extended stay, the full-time YouTuber and boutique travel agency owner knew she'd found her new home.

"The skyline literally is what sold me on Bangkok. I knew that I wanted to live in the city, where it's just so beautiful. And the cost of living here, I mean, it didn't hurt. So I was like, 'OK, let me do it,'" Yvonne, 37, told Business Insider.

She returned to the US for the summer and got ready to make the big move. By November 2023, she was back in Bangkok — for good.

The allure of living abroad

Yvonne is no stranger to living abroad.

Originally from Indiana, she moved to Spain in 2013 and lived there for about three years. Part of the reason she made that move was because she was burned out and looking for an escape from her corporate investment banking job.

"I saw the movie 'Eat, Pray, Love,' and I was like, 'OK, I want to be Julia Roberts and go abroad.' Six months after watching that movie, I was living in Barcelona," Yvonne said.

That experience of living abroad gave her a taste for adventure. She became a Delta Air Lines flight attendant for three years. When the pandemic hit, she left her job and spent two years exploring the US and Mexico while living in a van she had converted.

Her parents weren't shocked when she told them she was planning to move abroad again. "I always followed through with crazy ideas," she said.

But it did surprise her parents, who still live in Indiana, when she told them where she was going.

"When I mentioned Bangkok to them, they were like, 'What? Bangkok?' A lot of people are shocked to hear that," she said.

Bangkok has long been a hot spot for expats. Data from the Bureau of Registration Administration of Thailand indicates that there were 102,189 foreigners living in the city as of the end of 2024.

Compared to many Western cities, Bangkok offers a relatively low cost of living. With two well-connected international airports, it is also a hub for travel around Asia.

Several Americans who moved to the Thai capital previously told BI that they were drawn to the city's vibrant lifestyle, good food options, and relative affordability.

In July last year, Thailand also introduced the Destination Thailand Visa, or DTV, in an effort to attract remote workers and digital nomads.

Building a life in Bangkok

Apartment-hunting was a breeze since Yvonne already knew what she was looking for: Unobstructed views of the city skyline, a balcony, and a convenient location.

"I wanted to be near a 7-11, within a 5-minute walking distance. I knew I wanted to be near a regular grocery store, and as far as the unit itself, I needed a washer and dryer," she said.

Thanks to a real estate agent she connected with through a Facebook group, Yvonne found her one-bedroom apartment within a week of her move. Rent is 22,000 Thai baht, or about $660, each month.

She finds it hard to pick a favorite spot in her apartment.

"I love being in my bedroom because it has floor-to-ceiling windows, and the view is absolutely amazing," Yvonne said. "But I also love my balcony too."

Her building has a gym, a pool, and a large coworking space with private call booths.

Yvonne didn't know anyone in Bangkok before she moved.

When she first arrived, she started using Bumble BFF — the friendship version of Bumble — as well as an expat Facebook group to connect with new people.

"You go to different meetups, and then one friend literally turns into two, and three, and four. You just build from there," she said.

Yvonne has been working on learning Thai, as the language barrier has been the biggest challenge of living in Bangkok so far.

"When I speak their language, they just light up, and they're more welcoming. I just feel like you connect more, and I think that's important," she said.

Finding peace in the Thai capital city

Yvonne says she feels more relaxed compared to when she was living in the US.

"In 2019, when I was still a flight attendant, I was on the go so much. It was always fast-paced. I was go, go, go, go, go. Even when I was off work, I was still trying to keep up with the Joneses," Yvonne said. "Whereas now, although Bangkok is a city — and a busy city at that — I find peace in the city. It's so weird."

Part of it, she says, is due to the flexibility of her job. Being an entrepreneur gives her the freedom to arrange her schedule.

Apart from filming and uploading videos onto her channel weekly, Yvonne also travels often, both for leisure and as part of the group trips that she hosts under her travel agency.

Although things in Bangkok are relatively affordable compared to the US, it would be a generalization to assume that everything is cheap, she said.

"While it can be very cost-effective, and for us Americans, my dollar stretches further, it doesn't necessarily mean that it is cheaper," she said. "Especially if you're going out and spending so much money on dinners and things like that, it can add up."

That ties into the biggest piece of advice she has for anyone who wants to move to Thailand.

"A lot of people come and think that $2,000 will get them by for several months at a time. No, I think that doing the proper research on condos and what it really costs to live here is the way to go," she said.

Yvonne also encourages people who move here to get to know the locals.

"I think having local friends is a great way to get familiar with a country. They can help you when your expat friends are not able to," she said.

Regarding her long-term plans, it's hard to keep her wanderlust at bay.

"People ask me, 'How long will you be in Bangkok?' I don't know. I'm here until I'm not," Yvonne said. "So it is just until I feel like I'm called somewhere else, but for now, it's Bangkok."

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• Kelsey Grammer says constant effort is the key to his 14-year marriage.
• "I always say, 'Love is a contact sport,'" he said. "Once in a while you got to back it up with some action."
• This is Grammer's fourth marriage, and the couple shares three kids.

Kelsey Grammer has been married to his wife, Kayte Walsh, for 14 years, and says the secret to their long marriage lies in putting in constant effort.

"I always say, 'Love is a contact sport,'" Grammer, 70, told People. "Once in a while you got to back it up with some action."

The "Frasier" actor added that it was important to keep the initial flame alive.

"I just always try to say to myself, 'Remember the blushing that you had when you first met. Remember that energy, that circulation that dialed you up just a little bit,'" he said.

Walsh, 46, is Grammer's fourth wife. The couple first met in 2009, when she was working as a flight attendant. They married in 2011 and share three kids. Grammer also has four children from his previous relationships.

The actor spoke about how supportive his wife was while he was writing a book about his sister, Karen, who was raped and murdered in 1975.

"When I finished the book, I turned her around and I said, 'I'm finished.' She said, 'Well, I've missed you,'" Grammer said, recalling Walsh's words. "I had to go away for a while — there were hours on end that I would just be staring off. But she was patient and loving through it. I had definitely lost a lot of the joy, and this brought it back for me."

Grammer isn't the only celebrity who has spoken about how they build and maintain healthy relationships with their spouses.

Robert Downey Jr. and his wife, Susan, say they don't go more than two weeks without being together as a family.

Rob Lowe, who has been married to Sheryl Berkoff for over 30 years, said he goes to couples therapy with her regularly because "it's like taking your car in and making sure the engine's running great."

Jamie Lee Curtis credits her 40-year marriage to the filmmaker Christopher Guest to "perseverance, patience, gentleness, and a really good dose of hatred."

A representative for Grammer did not immediately respond to a request for comment sent by Business Insider outside regular hours.

• Michelle Obama doesn't believe in overparenting her daughters.
• Although she was strict, she wanted them to make and learn from their own mistakes while growing up.
• Her comments come as more parents are rethinking how they discipline their children.

Michelle Obama doesn't believe in coddling kids.

During Wednesday's episode of her and her brother's "IMO" podcast, which featured guests Damon and Marlon Wayans, the former First Lady spoke about her experience raising her kids.

Obama said that even though she was strict with her daughters, she felt it was important for them to make their own mistakes.

"And I think nowadays a lot of parents are trying to live their kids' lives for them so that they don't make any mistakes and don't feel any sense of failure, which keeps them from learning," Obama told her cohost Craig Robinson and her two guests.

The "Becoming" author also spoke about how she wanted her daughters to make sound decisions on their own, meaning she had to stop overparenting them.

"It's like, you know what, I raised you all to have some sense, to have judgment. And at some point, you've got to practice that, which means that I've got to let go," Obama said.

She shares two daughters, Malia and Sasha Obama, with her husband, former US President Barack Obama.

She added that she tried to give her kids more rope before they went to college.

"And I think that the reverse happens now is that everybody's trying to hold on to their kids. But one day they're going to get out there, and the only thing that is for certain for kids getting out in the world, is they're going to get hit with some failure," Obama said.

To help kids handle failure, she says parents should start letting them make decisions early on.

"Choosing the knucklehead boyfriend and holding your tongue, and showing them that you trust them so that when they do fail, they'll come back," she said.

Obama's comments come as more parents are rethinking how they raise their children.

In recent years, gentle parenting has been a big trend, especially among millennial parents. This parenting style frowns upon punitive methods while emphasizing respect and understanding of children's emotions.

Similarly, permissive parenting involves not setting or enforcing many rules for kids. While this parenting style can foster a stronger bond between parents and their children, it may lead to kids having trouble with self-regulation.

In a personal essay for Business Insider, child psychologist Michele Borba wrote that parents can instill resilience in their kids by letting them fail.

She wrote that one way would be for parents to stop trying to fix their kids' problems.

"Instead, step back and subscribe to a new parenting behavior: 'Never do for your child what your child can do for themself,'" Borba wrote.

A representative for Obama did not immediately respond to a request for comment sent by Business Insider outside regular hours.

• Jameel Haiat and Hilcia Peña left the US and moved to Chiang Mai, Thailand.
• They started a boutique hotel, but shut it down months later so Haiat could prioritize his cancer recovery.
• Now they're focused on their passions — making art and writing poetry — and say every day feels like Saturday.

Eleven years ago, Jameel Haiat and Hilcia Peña set a goal of quitting their jobs and living life on their own terms.

The couple even picked a date to make it real and gave the name a plan: "2020 Vision."

Haiat, a production designer, was born and raised in Los Angeles. His partner, Peña, is an architect who grew up in California. In 2014, the couple was based abroad in Shanghai, where they both worked for Walt Disney Imagineering.

"We were always trying to figure out how we could leave this corporate world and be more creative," Peña, now 39, told Business Insider.

It was during their years in China that the idea of retiring abroad first took root.

"We had the opportunity to travel all over Southeast Asia, and Thailand we loved because it had good infrastructure, good healthcare, and was really affordable," Peña said. "We could see how our money could go a lot further."

They decided 2020 Vision would go into effect on February 20, 2020.

"We said that on that day, no matter where we are in the world, whatever we're doing, we're going to send an email out that says, 'We're sorry for your loss.' And then we quit," Haiat, now 59, told BI.

Moving abroad

By the time their February 2020 deadline rolled around, they were both based back in the US. But 2020 Vision didn't go quite as planned.

"We never sent the emails because everything came to fruition as we had hoped," Haiat said.

Peña was offered a new opportunity with Disney — this time in Hong Kong.

The opportunity to relocate to Hong Kong felt like a step toward their goal of retiring abroad. It helped that the company was paying for their move, so she accepted the job. Haiat, who was laid off when his project wrapped, joined as a trailing spouse.

In 2023, after Peña wrapped up her final project, the couple moved from Hong Kong to Chiang Mai, about 450 miles north of Bangkok.

The boutique hotel chapter

In recent years, Chiang Mai has become a popular destination for expats, like Haiat and Peña, who are looking to relocate.

Data from the Bureau of Registration Administration of Thailand indicates that there were 163,036 foreigners living in Chiang Mai province in 2024, up from 131,761 in 2017.

Several expats in Chiang Mai previously told BI that they were drawn to the area's safety, lower cost of living, and laid-back lifestyle.

For the couple, life in northern Thailand afforded them the freedom to indulge in their creative passions — reading, writing poetry, and making art.

It also opened up an unexpected opportunity to pursue a second career during retirement as hoteliers.

"One day on Facebook, I saw this hotel. I was like, 'Oh wow. Let's just go look at it.' Because, architecturally, it looked really pretty," Haiat said.

The hotel, owned by a Thai-Dutch couple, featured a main building and five stand-alone villas surrounded by lush rice fields.

They had no intention of taking over the property until they were on the drive back home.

"We started saying, 'Wow, what if?' And that was it. We got sucked into the world of it, and then we committed," Haiat said.

The couple decided to lease the hotel with the option to buy it. The monthly rent was 110,000 Thai baht.

The property needed a lot of work. By tapping into their backgrounds in design and architecture, they transformed the hotel.

The couple moved onto the property, into a three-bedroom apartment in the main building.

But eight months after the hotel started operating, the couple decided to close it down.

The week they decided to commit to leasing the hotel, Haiat found out he had throat cancer. Despite the diagnosis, they decided to go ahead with the hotel project.

"We didn't know what would happen, so we stuck with it," Haiat said.

However, caring for their guests turned into a round-the-clock affair, keeping him from focusing on his recovery.

"We finally determined that it was just too hard on my body and I'm never going to really recover until we just kind of stop doing this," Haiat said.

Haiat is in remission, but he still experiences side effects from radiation therapy, including the daily challenge of getting nutrition through a gastric tube.

"This will most likely be for life," he said.

Low cost of living, great healthcare

The couple broke their lease with the hotel owners late last year. They closed the hotel on the last day of December.

Now, they're back to their creative pursuits and designing their own house. Once that's ready, the couple plans to move out of the hotel.

The lower cost of living in Chiang Mai has been a great relief, the couple says.

Every month, they spend 7,500 Thai baht on medical insurance, 3,000 Thai baht on gas, and about 29,000 Thai baht on food — including special formula Haiat needs for his feeding tube.

They also say they're grateful for Chiang Mai's healthcare system.

"I never felt more comfortable and more welcomed by the nurses, the staff, the doctors. Everybody speaks basic English. And if we ask questions, they explain," Haiat said.

There's a dedicated counter to guide foreign patients through the medical system, helping with processes like insurance approval, Peña said.

"That would never happen in the US," Haiat said. "They see you as a dollar symbol. Here, people see you as a patient."

'Every day is our Saturday'

Despite all of the challenges they've experienced, the couple says their life in Chiang Mai is going "in the direction" they dreamed of years ago.

"I think it's turned out better than we expected, even with the cancer," Haiat said. "I'm going to be 60, and I've never been more creative in my entire life than I have been in this last year."

Now, they're no longer bogged down by the mundanities of corporate life.

"At work, you think about, 'What do I have to do tomorrow for work? Who do I have to call? What do I have to email? What's my schedule? What's my deadline?'" Haiat said. "Here, we don't have that. We wake up every day, and we don't even know what day it is. We say every day is our Saturday."

The slower pace of life has also been good for her mental health, Peña said. She no longer gets Sunday blues.

"Now I sleep, and the birds wake me up. I don't even have an alarm," she added.

Despite ongoing health challenges, Haiat feels like they are in the right place.

"It still is the best we've ever lived our lives. Despite the fact that I have the gastric tube and all these, I still wouldn't exchange any of this to be anywhere else except where we are right now, living the life we do," he said.

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• Helen Mirren, 79, wants people in their 50s and 60s to start exercising regularly.
• The actor still swears by a 12-minute military workout routine to stay fit.
• Inactivity is associated with $117 billion in annual healthcare costs, per the CDC.

At 79, Helen Mirren is staying active and embracing aging with more purpose than ever.

In an interview with The Times published on Tuesday, the actor spoke about growing older and the importance of regular exercise.

"Whatever you may think about aging, it's something we must all try to embrace rather than fear," Mirren told The Times.

She encouraged those in their 50s and 60s to make exercise a daily habit by incorporating simple, low-impact physical activities into their lives.

"It doesn't have to be joining a gym. It can be small changes like taking a short walk or practicing yoga, which I still enjoy," she said.

Mirren has long championed a 12-minute military workout developed by the Royal Canadian Air Force in the 1950s and still considers it her go-to exercise routine. The workout consists of basic exercises, including toe touches, leg raises, and push-ups.

"It's never too late to start doing something, so why not give it a go while you're younger?" Mirren said.

This isn't the first time that Mirren has spoken about how she keeps fit and healthy.

In a 2015 interview, Mirren's fitness advice was to ease into it.

"My thing with exercise is start really easy, just so you only do three sit-ups, you know? Then do four next week, and the next week do five. Start really easy," she told People.

Diet-wise, she tries to eat everything in moderation.

"I've never done anything to excess," Mirren told People in a 2008 interview. "I've never drunk or eaten too much. It helps to stay balanced."

Data from the CDC shows there are about 31 million adults ages 50 and above in the US who are inactive, which means they get no physical activity beyond that of daily living. Not having enough physical activity contributes to 1 in 10 premature deaths, and is also associated with $117 billion in annual healthcare costs.

Even five minutes of exercise can improve cardiovascular health by reducing blood pressure. Research has also found that regular exercise can help improve memory and reduce the effects of strokes.

Lauren Hurst, a personal trainer to older people, previously told Business Insider that strength training can help people live longer for better.

For people who lead sedentary lifestyles, the best thing they can do for their health is to start somewhere, Dr. Suzanne Steinbaum, a preventative cardiologist, told BI previously.

"Doing something is better than doing nothing," she said. "If walking is the beginning stages of embracing a heart-healthy life, then it is the initial stages that will create habits that will be sustainable and last for a lifetime."

A representative for Mirren did not immediately respond to a request for comment sent by Business Insider outside regular hours.

• Even Jamie Oliver can't keep his kids from eating pizzas and burgers in their teens.
• Despite teaching them to cook, Oliver's kids still go through a junk-food phase, he said.
• Thankfully, "they do come back," the celebrity chef said.

Even Jamie Oliver has a hard time steering his kids away from eating unhealthy food.

During an interview with People published on Monday, the celebrity chef spoke about his family life and what it's like being a father of five.

"All of my kids have got a confidence with cooking. I've taught all of my kids how to cook: planting things, growing things, picking things, coming to the market, getting to know everyone in the market, having conversations with people, realizing that naturally food is a delicious thing," Oliver told People.

Even though he has instilled in his kids a genuine appreciation for food, that hasn't kept them from entering a junk-food phase in their teens.

"When they start getting into 12, 13 years old, they start to go down the generic of all the predictable pizza, burger stuff — but they do come back," he said.

Throughout his career, Oliver has been a prominent advocate for healthy eating.

The "Naked Chef" star has also led several public campaigns advocating against junk food consumption among kids.

In his ABC series "Food Revolution," which aired from 2010 to 2011, Oliver drew national attention to "pink slime" — ground meat scraps treated with ammonia, which are often used by fast-food meat patties in the US. The show caused public outrage, leading several fast-food chains, including McDonald's, to announce that they would discontinue the use of the meat product in their burgers.

In 2018, he also launched a social media campaign against junk food advertising aimed at kids, calling for the government to introduce a 9 p.m. watershed on junk food ads on TV, and for controls on what kids see online and in public. As of 2024, nine UK mayors have backed Oliver's campaign and pledged to stop junk food advertising in public spaces.

However, in a 2018 interview with the Daily Mail, Oliver said that he would allow his kids to go to McDonald's if they wanted to.

"Honestly? If they wanted to go, I'd let them. Because they get really well fed 95% of the time from us," Oliver told the Daily Mail. "If they want to go out and have a fizzy drink I don't care, because we have none in the house. My wife's probably stricter. She'd say, 'Oh please, don't.' But they'd only end up doing it in some other place."

A CDC report based on data from the most recent National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey found that children and adolescents in the US consumed an average of 13.8% of their calories from fast food between 2015 and 2018. The previous figure, from 2011 to 2012, was 12.4%.

A representative for Oliver did not immediately respond to a request for comment sent by Business Insider.

• Tina Knowles says she sent Beyoncé and Solange to therapy as kids to foster a strong bond between the sisters.
• Knowles said her family — and even her ex-husband — was upset with her decision.
• Experts say it's normal for most siblings to argue, but there are ways for parents to help their kids get along.

When Tina Knowles, 71, noticed a growing rift between her daughters, Beyoncé and Solange, she decided to step in.

During an interview on 'CBS Mornings' on Wednesday, Knowles reflected on raising her two daughters and the steps she took to strengthen their sisterly bond.

She told host Gayle King that she made the unpopular decision to bring both daughters to a counselor when they were kids.

As Beyoncé's fame grew in their hometown, the dynamic between the sisters began to shift, especially after Beyoncé joined a singing group, she said.

"Everything took place at our house, so the other girls in the group would tell Solange to shut up and be quiet and all that, and I started noticing that she wasn't protecting her sister," Knowles said.

She didn't like what was happening, so she spoke to Beyoncé about it.

"I was like, 'That's your sister. You don't let people talk to your sister like that.' She was like, "Yeah, but she comes in, bursts in, and she wants to boss us around and do steps,'" Knowles said, recalling her eldest daughter's words.

"I just started seeing this, you know, separation, and I said, "Oh no, you all are going to grow up close if I have to, you know, whatever I have to do to make that happen," Knowles said.

She added that her family did not like the idea of her bringing her daughters to therapy.

"My family was upset, and even Matthew was not happy. He was like, 'I don't want any part of that. Why do you want them to go?'" Knowles said, recalling her ex-husband's words.

The couple married in 1980 and welcomed Beyoncé in 1981 and Solange in 1986. After 30 years of marriage, they divorced in 2011.

This isn't the first time Knowles has spoken about taking her daughters to therapy.

In a 2018 interview with Maria Shriver, Knowles also spoke about what she hoped early counselling would achieve.

"My family was like, 'You're going to make them crazy because they're too young for you to take them,'" Knowles told Shriver. "But I wanted Beyoncé to be sensitive to the fact that Solange had to deal with being a little bit in her shadow. And it made her way more sensitive and protective. And they're still fiercely protective of each other."

Knowles also added that she gave each daughter one-on-one time while they were growing up.

"I had days I devoted to them. On Wednesdays, I took off work and that was Solange's day," Knowles said.

It's normal for most siblings to argue with each other, but there are numerous ways that parents can intervene to help their kids get along.

Psychologists previously told Business Insider that it's important for parents to set clear expectations and give each child alone time with them, just like Knowles did. This can help children not feel like they always have to compete for their parents' attention.

Additionally, if conflict arises between siblings, parents should allow each child to tell their side of the story, Tracy King, a clinical psychologist, told BI.

"Use a strategy of 'externalizing' where you step outside of blame and speak as if the conflict is in the room for everyone to problem solve," King said.

A representative for Knowles did not immediately respond to a request for comment sent by BI outside regular hours.