Josh Shapiro says Texas won't replace Pennsylvania as the 'ultimate swing state'
But Josh Shapiro insists Texas isn’t going to replace Pennsylvania as the “ultimate swing state.” He needs it to be true.
- You’re never going to get me to come off of Pennsylvania being the ultimate swing state.
- Shapiro’s theory of the case for 2028 has long rested on his ability to win resoundingly and repeatedly in what has recently been the nation’s biggest battleground state.
- “The common-sense approach we’ve taken to governing, the kind of candidates we recruited to run for Congress who won, I think that that can be a model for our party,” Shapiro told POLITICO by phone late last week.
And “it’s going to be important that we share our Pennsylvania model from what I would maintain … is still the ultimate swing state.” Shapiro continues to play coy about his presidential ambitions.
Do you think that Texas will take over from Pennsylvania as the nation's biggest swing state?
- When POLITICO asked Shapiro his timeline to decide a 2028 run, he replied: “I just wrapped up a meeting with the legislative leaders and my senior team to work on our agenda going forward, and that's what I'm focused on right now.” Here’s more from POLITICO’s chat with Shapiro, edited and condensed for length.
- He plowed over $10 million into state Democrats’ campaign arms and helped recruit and cut ads for candidates across House and state Senate races.
- I think in part that is correct, and that's why the first new law I want to pass in Pennsylvania is to put more money in people's pockets.
- Do you think the path to the presidency is moving out of the Blue Wall and into states like Texas, into the Sun Belt?
- He also flipped 11 counties President Donald Trump won in 2024 and, his team argued in a post-election memo shared first with POLITICO, showed “unique strength” with voters skeptical of the Democratic Party.
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