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Ads took over streaming this year — and they're just getting started

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  • Advertising took over the streaming-TV experience this year, and it'll only get bigger next year.
  • Interactive ads that try to get viewers to shop or take other actions are gaining traction.
  • This article is part of "Transforming Business," a series on the must-know leaders and trends impacting industries.

It's back to the future in Hollywood.

Streaming is starting to look like the TV days of old. Entertainment for the masses is back. Bundles are making it easier to consolidate subscriptions.

And ads seem to be everywhere.

Netflix, Disney+, and Max — which all started ad-free — now have cheaper ad-supported tiers. Amazon turned on ads in Prime Video this year, making advertising de facto for more than 100 million viewers in the US in one fell swoop.

EMARKETER expects streaming advertising to reach half of linear-TV advertising's size in 2024 and approach parity with it in 2027.

According to the analytics firm Antenna, these cheaper versions are gaining traction with viewers, too. In May, most new paying subscribers to five major streamers were choosing ad-supported tiers — a year earlier, this was true for only two streamers.

On Disney's latest earnings call, execs said that about 60% of new subscribers in the US were opting for its ad-supported tier, which accounted for 37% of its total US subscribers.

Ad-supported TV viewing also is on the rise through free services like Fox's Tubi, Paramount's Pluto TV, and The Roku Channel. According to Nielsen, those services plus YouTube made up 14.8% of viewing in July, up from 12.5% a year earlier.

"What's old is new again," said Jonathan Miller, a veteran media executive and chief executive of Integrated Media Co., which invests in digital media.

Miller sees ad tiers as a validation of the dual revenue streams that long supported cable. "Advertising and subscriptions have always been a successful model," he said.

Streaming ads are here to stay because — along with bundling, cheaper programming, and password-sharing crackdowns — they're one of the ways streamers can help make themselves sustainable.

Ads have also begun to directly shape the content streamers offer. Streamers are showing more sports and other live programming because of the big audiences and advertisers they attract.

For example, Netflix's highly anticipated Mike Tyson-Jake Paul fight on November 15 was a win for the streamer despite some tech glitches. Why? Because it showed Netflix's ability to draw huge audiences at once; it said that as many as 60 million households tuned in. That large audience bodes well for Netflix's NFL games on Christmas and its live WWE programming set to debut in January.

Viewers' tolerance for ads will be increasingly tested

Streamers that dipped a toe in the ad space are looking to wade in.

The ad load — or ad volume per hour of entertainment — has crept up over the past year, according to the measurement firm MediaRadar. There was an average of six minutes of ads per hour in September across eight leading ad-supported streamers, up by 9% from January 2023, when Netflix and Disney had just entered the ad-supported game. That's still far lower than cable, where ad loads can push an eye-watering 15 minutes or more an hour. Viewers are also more likely to tolerate ads in live sports because people are used to them being part of that content.

(L-R) Ryan Fitzpatrick, Charissa Thompson and Tony Gonzalez attend Amazon debuts Inaugural Upfront Presentation at Pier 36 on May 14, 2024 in New York City.
Ryan Fitzpatrick, Charissa Thompson, and Tony Gonzalez host Amazon Prime Video's "Thursday Night Football."

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Amazon and Warner Bros. Discovery recently said they'd start showing more ads to their streaming viewers in 2025, while emphasizing that their ad loads were lower than their competitors.

"On the ad-load side, we are light," WBD's streaming chief, JB Perrette, said of the streamer Max during the company's third-quarter earnings call. "We have a very light ad load compared to everyone else in the market, so there's room to grow on the capacity side."

The industry consensus is that streaming ad loads won't become a throwback to cable, though — at least not anytime soon.

For one thing, it's a buyer's market. Amazon flooded the market with ad inventory, which depressed ad prices for everyone. Streamers aren't incentivized to add too much more ad inventory because it'll just drive the price down more. Some advertisers are also wary of annoying viewers who are still getting used to seeing ads in streaming.

"The supply has grown significantly over the last few years," said Maureen Bosetti, the chief investment officer for Mediabrands. "It's created a marketplace for marketers."

Makers of streaming video ads are also becoming more ambitious. It's not enough for an ad to be seen — they'll try to get viewers to take action, whether by clicking a QR code or dropping a featured product in their shopping cart. These interactive ads could get higher price tags at a time when streaming ad prices have come down.

"As a consumer, I'm seeing more of them," Jessica Brown, a managing director of digital investment at GroupM, said of interactive streaming ads. "We're getting more pitches from the streaming partners. You can measure success in a different way."

Warner Bros. Discovery recently rolled out two such formats. "Shop with Max" identifies items in TV shows and films and matches them with relevant advertiser products that viewers can shop while they watch. "Moments" uses AI to figure out themes, sentiments, and on-screen elements that line up tonally with the advertiser's message.

Fubo recently announced four ad formats, including ones that show trivia questions or polls and product carousels. Fubo said such ads made people 47% more likely to purchase something compared with standard video ads.

"A big objective we have is to make a majority of ads have some form of interactive or engaging feature," Krishan Bhatia, an NBCUniversal exec who was hired by Amazon to lead its Prime Video ads push, said at a recent event. "What brands love about it is not just the fact that you generate a potential purchase off it but people are spending more time with your brands."

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Media insiders expect an M&A deal frenzy next year. These 6 companies could be in the mix.

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The merger of David Ellison's Skydance Media with Paramount Global is expected to close in late 2025.

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  • Media and entertainment insiders expect an uptick in industry M&A in 2025.
  • Comcast and Skydance Media's deals could unleash more activity.
  • Insiders identified the deals they think are most likely to happen in 2025 and beyond.

With several buzzy media and entertainment deals already planned for 2025, industry insiders say next year could see a flurry of M&A activity.

Bankers and investors largely expect Trump's return to the White House will be favorable for dealmaking and are rubbing their hands together in anticipation of a big year ahead.

"Every banker that has pay-TV is crunching the numbers," said Jonathan Miller, CEO of Integrated Media, which invests in digital media. Miller sees media at an inflection point that could accelerate M&A. Now that streaming TV businesses are maturing, owners of linear TV channels can start to think about hiving off that no-growth business.

A big player here is Comcast, which announced in November that it would spin off most of its NBCUniversal cable channels, including CNBC, MSNBC, and E!, into a new SpinCo. That new entity plans to grow in part by acquiring other cable channels, so the move is widely expected to trigger other deals.

A second potential trigger of M&A is Skydance Media's long-awaited merger with Paramount Global. This will combine David Ellison's production company, known for hits like "Top Gun: Maverick," with Paramount's assets, including a storied movie studio, CBS News, and cable networks like MTV and Nickelodeon. Paramount is expected to get rid of assets alongside the merger.

Both the Comcast and Paramount deals are expected to close in the second half of 2025.

Another big theme that could pave the way for deals is the continued fallout of Peak TV's end, which industry insiders expect to continue to winnow the number of independent TV suppliers. Look for more production companies to shut down or combine, as in the recent merger of LeBron James' sports-focused SpringHill with Fullwell 73, the production company behind "The Kardashians."

While Big Tech has become a major player in entertainment and, increasingly, sports rights, don't look to them to be the savior of struggling media and entertainment companies.

"The tech companies have realized they could get the milk without buying the cow," said Alex Iosilevich, partner at Alignment Growth, which invests in media and entertainment. "You see it with the sports rights. You don't need to buy Warner to get the next NBA rights."

Business Insider spoke with half a dozen media and entertainment investors, bankers, and advisors who speculated about the deals they think could happen in 2025 and beyond. Some of the people were granted anonymity to protect business relationships; their identities are known to BI.

Paramount is widely expected to unload assets
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Kevin Costner in "Yellowstone."

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It's taken as a given in the industry that Paramount will pare down, as it's tried to do for years, now that its Skydance merger is imminent and the company is poised to install former NBCUniversal CEO Jeff Shell at the helm.

Co-CEO George Cheeks has said the company is evaluating sales of assets to shave $500 million in costs, which could include BET Media and the Paramount Pictures lot. (It's already been in talks to sell BET to a group led by CEO Scott Mills.) Leaders have insisted they're keeping CBS. But Paramount's networks face the same tough market as the rest of the linear landscape.

Some see Showtime as a prime target for Starz, the cable network that's shifting to streaming with its imminent spinoff from studio Lionsgate. Starz could be on the hunt for assets to help it bulk up.

Comcast SpinCo could be a buyer or a seller
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Mark Lazarus will be SpinCo's CEO.

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NBCU executive Mark Lazarus, who will be SpinCo's CEO, has talked it up as a buyer. It certainly has options. It could look no further than Paramount, which has already hung a for-sale sign on assets, or Warner's grab bag of channels like TBS or TLC. Another potential target is AMC Networks, the prestigious but sub-scale network and streamer (though it specializes in the type of TV dramas that have largely migrated to streaming).

SpinCo could also be a seller. Some also think SpinCo could be bought entirely by a private-equity firm further down the road. SpinCo may have to wait a couple of years to sell itself to avoid a tax liability anyway.

WBD is expected to make a move
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Meghann Fahy in HBO's "The White Lotus."

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Warner Bros. Discovery recently announced that it would split into two divisions in 2025, signaling M&A options are on the table. One will house the growing digital streaming and studio businesses, and the other will consist of its declining legacy television networks. WBD needs the cash from its linear channels to pay down its still-considerable debt, but separating the good from the bad could help it sell some assets.

Industry insiders have predicted WBD could do anything from adding Paramount's linear channels or Comcast's SpinCo — considering Warners' debt, it could happen in a stock-for-stock swap — to selling properties like CNN that aren't core to its streaming business. And depending on how the Murdoch succession plays out, a longer-term play could be to buy Fox assets. With scale still the coin of the realm, Warners has to eat or be eaten.

Lionsgate has a valuable catalog
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Keanu Reeves as John Wick in Lionsgate's "John Wick: Chapter 4."

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Now that Lionsgate is separated from Starz, it's widely seen as a candidate for sale, something Anson Funds Management, an activist investor, is pushing for.

"I don't think they'll be independent in 2026," one banker said.

There'd be no shortage of buyers for Lionsgate, as it's one of the last independent Hollywood studios out there. Its massive library includes "John Wick," "The Hunger Games," and "Twilight."

Paramount or WBD could snap it up for its library, though they wouldn't necessarily want its distribution or management business. Legendary Entertainment (home to "Dune" and "Godzilla") and its major investor Apollo Global Management, as well as Sony, were previously said to all be interested in Paramount, so they could be potential buyers for Lionsgate. Some also see Fox in the market for a studio, as it sold its TV and movie studios to Disney in 2019.

And while Big Tech has generally preferred to build than buy, Amazon has shown an openness to acquiring, having put down $8.5 billion for MGM Studios three years ago.

Don't count out Disney
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Disney CEO Bob Iger.

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That leaves the other legacy media giant: Disney.

About a year ago, CEO Bob Iger floated the idea of selling Disney's TV and cable properties like ABC, but he's since retreated from it. The company line was that Disney wouldn't get the price it wanted and that it'd be too complex to separate them from the rest of the company. Iger and Trump have also sparred in the past, and Disney could look to avoid deals that need government approval.

That said, Iger could change his mind, and now that its streaming business sees a path to ongoing profitability, he seems to have more options. Disney could entertain selling its TV networks like ABC, which it doesn't need to fuel its streaming business. And Disney, without its linear TV business, could be more valuable to a potential buyer, should it decide it's better off selling itself.

One industry player mused that Disney could sell Hulu+ Live TV, its cable-like TV package, and exit the distribution business.

Is Roku headed for a sale?
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Roku has been a beneficiary of the continued shift of viewers to streaming, with smart TVs in 85 million homes. Needham recently got Roku in the conversation again with a note predicting it could be sold in 2025, now that Walmart has closed its sale of TV maker Vizio. Needham analysts think anyone from Netflix to The Trade Desk could be interested in Roku as a way to build their streaming ad business, while a retailer like Target could see Roku as a way to use TV ads to drive shopping.

Lara O'Reilly contributed reporting.

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Sora's dazzling AI could democratize filmmaking for the next generation — but it still has lots of limitations

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Even before OpenAI's video generator Sora rolled out, bold-faced creatives were bracing for impact.

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  • Business Insider spoke to up-and-coming filmmakers and professors as OpenAI's Sora debuted.
  • AI video generation could open the door for indie filmmakers — and more blockbusters.
  • Fear of job losses looms, but one professor called AI text tools a bigger threat.

Up-and-coming filmmakers and professors at some of the nation's top film schools say the arrival of OpenAI video generators like Sora signals a democratization of the industry may be afoot, even though the tech is still limited.

Sora rolled out widely on Monday following a February pilot program. The tool generates short video clips — 20 seconds max — from users' text prompts. Sora can also modify existing clips.

For example, say a user wants to create a scene with green monsters in a thunderstorm. To do that, she'd type a prompt, and Sora would spit out a file.

While bold-faced creators are already bracing for impact, early Sora testers told Business Insider it gave them new ways to think about their work — even as others also complained the platform appeared to regurgitate content from a limited database.

Michaela Ternasky-Holland was one of the first directors to create and premiere a short film using Sora. It screened at Tribeca in 2024. She said she's excited about Sora's potential to cut filmmaking's development costs by creating things like sizzle reels, but she's aware of its limitations.

These things are giving you an illusion of control. And no matter how good the generations are, there's still someone behind them prompting it," she said. "Just because someone has a 4K camera, it doesn't make them a Steven Spielberg."

A screenshot of Sora in action, with a user generating a clip of animals running through a tundra.
The tool can generate short video clips — 20 seconds max — from user-inputted text prompts.

Sora

Dana Polan, a professor of cinema studies at New York University's Tisch School of the Arts, said AI image generators aren't stoking the same fears as their text-based counterparts.

That's because many in Hollywood see the screenplay as "the first act of creativity," said Polan, who noted that other people in the filmmaking process, including cinematographers, are already seen as "adapters into images of words."

While he remains optimistic about AI in film, George Huang, a professor at the UCLA School of Theater, Film and Television — who has experimented with AI tools in his own moviemaking — concedes the technology has a bad rap in Hollywood, which has made countless movies on the topic.

"We think AI is now coming to destroy all of us, and that's a narrative that Hollywood created," he said. "It's embedded in our culture."

Sora's not quite ready for prime time — yet

Industry watchers told Business Insider that they don't foresee Sora or AI image generation appearing widely in finished films just yet given that the image quality still exists in something of an "uncanny valley."

Sora's pace of improvement has slowed down with later versions, Ternasky-Holland said. For example, it still struggles to put multiple characters in a scene no matter how many times it's prompted, she said.

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Experts don't foresee Sora or AI image generation appearing widely in finished films just yet.

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But Polan told BI the tech could come in handy for the previsualization process — or animated storyboards to check pacing and flow. Huang also said he could see it being used as a "pitch reel" for screenwriters.

That said, other AI startups like Runway have created tools already used across the industry to expedite editing, with clients that include "The Late Show with Stephen Colbert" and the effects team behind "Everything Everywhere All At Once."

Michael Gilkison, a Lexington, Kentucky-based filmmaker whose latest project, "The Finish Line," is on Amazon's Prime Video, said a free AI app helped create a scene where a car was crushed. "That would have cost a lot more 20 years ago," he said over email. Using AI technology could also create cheaper ways to film period pieces. But it also can negate the need to hire extras, which can deprive a film of its spirit.

"As a producer, I would use it to keep the cost down, but it is all about balance," Gilkison said.

Tahsis Fairley, a creative producing student at Chapman University, said via email he envisions using Sora to expedite storyboarding and illustrate ideas to his team.

"We will be able to test out new visual ideas without investing significant amounts of money," Fairley said.

That said, Huang doesn't believe we're far off from full implementation, saying AI could appear within completed films "by the end of the next year easily."

Cost savings could boost indies and blockbusters alike

The expenses associated with filmmaking can put a damper on artistic vision, Huang said. But students are generally receptive to new technology, Polan said.

ChatGPT Plus subscribers, who pay $20 a month, get up to 50 Sora generations a month that are five seconds maximum. ChatGPT Pro users, who pay $200 a month, get unlimited generations up to 20 seconds in length.

In slashing costs, Huang said platforms like Sora are bound to "almost democratize the filmmaking process, sort of lower those barriers to entry." In addition to more tools for indie filmmakers working in the margins, this could also mean more blockbusters produced at a relative discount by major studios, he said.

Fairley, for his part, sees AI as a "double-edged sword."

While he cheered its efficiency gains, he expressed concern about job losses across the industry — particularly in fields like animation, pointing to a Coca-Cola Chrismas ad created entirely with AI.

OpenAI did not immediately respond to a request for comment from Business Insider.

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Warner Bros. Discovery separates TV networks from its streaming and studio business

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Warner Bros Discovery CEO David Zaslav is separating the company's networks from its studio and streaming businesses.

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  • Warner Bros. Discovery is splitting its linear TV business from streaming and studios.
  • Comcast last month also spun off its cable networks — except Bravo — into a stand-alone company.
  • The moves illustrate a cable business in decline, with both repositioning for M&A opportunities.

Warner Bros. Discovery is separating its linear television business from its streaming business and film studios.

It follows a similar move by Comcast, which announced in November it would spin off all of its NBCUniversal cable networks except Bravo into a stand-alone company.

The new corporate structure will be complete by the middle of next year, WBD said. Unlike Comcast, WBD won't spin its assets off into a separate company.

A new Global Linear Networks division will house TV properties like the Discovery Channel and CNN, while the Streaming & Studios side will be the home of Max and movie studio Warner Bros. Motion Picture Group.

"Our Global Linear Networks business is well positioned to continue to drive free cash flow, while our Streaming & Studios business focuses on driving growth," WBD president and CEO David Zaslav said in a statement.

A source with direct knowledge of the matter said the move was meant to clean up the company's structure, which was formed in 2022 from the combination of WarnerMedia and Discovery. (Discovery itself was the product of its acquisition of Scripps Networks in 2017.)

This person said the company is still determining how the specific business units will be divided, and no leadership changes were planned.

The moves by both Comcast and WBD illuminate a cable business increasingly in decline. Their repositioning of properties could help them participate in potential mergers and acquisitions expected to reshape the media and entertainment industry in 2025.

Warner Bros. Discovery was supposed to create scale and value and help compete with Big Tech by mashing WarnerMedia's prestige networks like HBO and CNN with Discovery's lifestyle properties like HGTV. But its stock has sunk to about a third of its value at the time of its creation in 2022. (It was up about 14% Thursday morning on the news of the new organization.)

Industry observers say a Comcast-like spin wouldn't be favorable for WBD because it needs the cash from its linear channels to pay down the heavy debt it took on to form the company.

Still, they see WBD bulking up or shedding channels, with Paramount Global or Comcast seen as the most likely merger partners.

The announcement was met with mixed reactions from analysts. BofA Securities, which has long argued that WBD should sell assets or merge with another company, said in a note that it saw WBD's linear assets as a logical partner for the Comcast SpinCo, while its streaming and studio assets could be an attractive takeover target for multiple suitors.

Longtime ad industry advisor Brian Wieser said that as with the Comcast SpinCo, a WBD separation weakens the company on a few fronts, though. Without being tethered to the cable channels, he said, it'll be harder for WBD's streamer Max to grow its ads business, which is becoming increasingly important. The linear networks will lose leverage in distribution negotiations without Max and have trouble attracting talent if they're seen as a declining business, among other issues, he said.

In July, WBD reportedly floated the idea to investors of essentially undoing the 2022 merger to create the two separate divisions. And in August, the company said its TV assets were worth $9 billion less than it had anticipated just two years ago.

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The billionaire owners of the Nets and Liberty plan to launch a media brand around the 'zeitgeist of Brooklyn' in 2025

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Joe Tsai attends a New York Liberty game at Barclays Center.

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  • The billionaire owners of the Nets and Liberty are hatching a media brand rooted in Brooklyn culture.
  • BSE Global plans to launch a new brand in early 2025, focusing on the "zeitgeist of Brooklyn."
  • The venture has money and expertise but faces a tough digital-media climate.

A trio of billionaires is looking to turn "Brooklyn" into a media brand in the vein of the youth and pop-culture outlet Complex.

Details have been trickling out in the New York media scene about moves by BSE Global — the parent company of the Brooklyn Nets, New York Liberty, and Barclays Center — to build an expansive media and entertainment company.

BSE plans to launch the new global media brand in early 2025 with a focus on "capturing and sharing the zeitgeist of Brooklyn," spokesperson Sheerin Salimi confirmed to Business Insider.

The money behind BSE comes from Alibaba cofounder Joe Tsai and his wife Clara Wu Tsai, along with Julia Koch. Koch, the widow of billionaire and conservative megadonor David Koch, bought 15% of BSE Global in June in a deal that valued the company at $6 billion.

Five people with direct knowledge of BSE's media plans described grand ambitions, saying the company envisions building a brand that is rooted in Brooklyn culture but can travel nationally and even globally. These people were granted anonymity to talk about confidential plans; their identities are known to BI.

Salimi confirmed to BI that the project is being called "Brand X" internally. One of the people with direct knowledge of BSE's plans said one potential name floated was "Boom," though Salimi said this is not currently under consideration.

Salimi said BSE is building complementary businesses alongside its teams and Barclays Center that tap into Brooklyn's spirit through sports, fashion, food, music, and the arts.

Breanna Stewart attends the New York Liberty Ticker Tape Victory Parade & Rally on October 24, 2024 in New York City. (Photo by Rob Kim/Getty Images)
Basketball star Breanna Stewart attends a New York City parade after the Liberty's championship win.

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BSE has hired a slew of Complex veterans

BSE planted the seeds for a media push when it purchased in March the local outlet Brooklyn Magazine, which it relaunched in November as BKMag.

"They're trying to be like the voice of Brooklyn," a second person with direct knowledge of BSE's plans said. "There's a national opportunity that doesn't exist with Brooklyn Magazine. People name their kids Brooklyn."

BSE has explored several different approaches and considered building or buying a collection of lifestyle titles. The second person with direct knowledge of BSE's plans said the company also looked at buying Complex to accelerate its plans.

Under CEO Sam Zussman, a veteran of sports and culture agency IMG, BSE has brought on at least five Complex veterans. He also hired former longtime Complex CEO Rich Antoniello as an advisor.

Complex was started in 2002 by streetwear designer Marc Ecko and became a rare digital media success story, helped by its influence on youth culture and its long-form video series on YouTube. It spawned a festival called ComplexCon, product lines, and other ventures.

BuzzFeed acquired Complex in 2021 for $300 million and sold it in early 2024 to the e-commerce company NTWRK for about a third of what it originally paid. BuzzFeed kept Complex's food vertical, First We Feast, best known for its popular video series "Hot Ones."

BSE sees Brooklyn as a launchpad for ventures from wine to comedy

BSE's broad idea is to use Brooklyn's cultural capital to build a string of businesses spanning from hotels and music venues to wine, streetwear, and media. As part of a $100 million plan to enhance the area, BSE recently opened two membership clubs at Barclays Center with luxury touches like velvet furnishings and specialty cocktails and has launched a wine club. BSE has also looked at doing a comedy tour, said a third person with knowledge of the company's media plans.

NEW YORK, NEW YORK - SEPTEMBER 14: (L-R) President of IMG Events and On Location Paul Caine, President of Endeavor Mark Shapiro, and Endeavor SVP Consumer Revenue and Marketing DeJuan Wilson attend the Hall des Lumières Opening Night Party on September 14, 2022 in New York City. (Photo by Bryan Bedder/Getty Images for Endeavor)
DeJuan Wilson, the leader of BSE's media operation, is pictured far right.

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Overseeing the media effort is DeJuan Wilson, who joined BSE in February as its chief products and experiences officer. Wilson is a longtime marketer who's worked at Endeavor, Coca-Cola, Nike, and SoundCloud.

Along with tapping Antoniello, BSE has hired other Complex alums including Aia Adriano, Complex's former VP of content; Stefan Breskin, a former social media director; Zion Olojede, its former head of sports; Erika Turner, its former VP of programming and development; and Lucas Wisenthal, its former international content development director.

Digital media is a troubled sector

Digital media has faced major headwinds lately, as Big Tech companies have siphoned much of the digital ad spending and squeezed publisher distribution on their platforms.

Even with BSE's deep pockets and well-connected leadership, some of the people with direct knowledge of its plans were skeptical about how far its commitment to media would ultimately go. Some also noted that the city is already served by many established outlets like The New York Times, Vox Media's New York magazine, and smaller local outlets.

Still, BSE's roots in sports could be an important asset at a time when athletes and teams are becoming even more central to media and pop culture. BSE's New York Liberty women's basketball team just celebrated its first championship, and its mascot, Ellie the Elephant, has become a fashion icon in her own right. The NBA's Brooklyn Nets, meanwhile, has built a big global fan base, partly thanks to its willingness to play games abroad.

Other media companies have been built around sports teams. There's YES Network, a regional sports network that's home to the New York Yankees, Nets, and Liberty, all well as producing other sports-related content; and Sphere Entertainment's MSG Network, which carries New York Knicks games and other sports-themed programming.

"I think BSE realizes they have a really strong brand they can build stuff around right now," said a fourth person with direct knowledge of the company's media plans.

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After the Omnicom-IPG merger, these are the ad M&A deals industry insiders think could be next

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Omnicom CEO John Wren.

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  • Ad industry insiders say the Omnicom takeover of Interpublic Group could kick off more M&A.
  • Insiders laid out who could be involved, from WPP to smaller holding companies.
  • Private equity and global solutions providers like Accenture also could be consolidators.

The planned $13.25 billion takeover by ad holding company Omnicom of Interpublic Group by merger has industry insiders speculating: Who's next?

Other agency giants face similar conditions that led two of the six big ad-holding companies to seek a merger. There's the concentration of ad dollars with tech giants Google, Meta, and Amazon; the need for media-buying scale to maintain an edge with global advertisers; and the growing use of AI that threatens to wipe out certain agency tasks. The US ad industry has barely grown over the past few years. By combining, Omnicom and IPG are looking to ensure their continued survival.

Some industry insiders think the Omnicom-IPG tie-up is just the start of a massive reordering of the $70 billion ad agency industry and that it's only a matter of time before other holding companies are forced to acquire or be acquired as they look to bulk up.

"From an M&A perspective, it's only going to add fuel to the fire," said William Ritchie, founding and managing director of the media and technology advisory firm WY Partners. "As others vie for competitive advantage over the newly crowned world's largest holding company, I'd expect there is going to be more competition for the best assets and more focus on building a streamlined data and tech-first offering which can compete — notably with companies like WPP, which remains behind the curve on competitive advantage here."

Ritchie said he sees continuing interest in assets that specialize in using data, tech, and AI to inform advertising, as well as PR and communications companies. He noted KKR's recent move to increase its stake in FGS Global, a comms and public affairs firm.

The IPG-Omnicom combo will spark more consolidation for other reasons, said Andreas Roell, CEO of Evros Group, which advises on media, marketing, entertainment, and tech deals. Once the new group decides what it wants to be known for, it may discard the units that don't fit that new identity and also divest some agencies that have competing clients or culture clashes.

Other networks will have to look in the mirror and decide if they're strong enough to acquire weaker networks or acknowledge they're falling behind due to tech disruption, Roell added.

"My prediction is that 2025 will serve as a reckoning year for networks," he said.

Other holding companies could partner up

Starting at the top of the food chain, some industry insiders think the upheaval could force two other longtime rivals to come together: French ad-holding company Publicis Groupe, which has been outperforming its competitors lately, and London-based WPP.

"Mark Read has not done the job that he probably expected he would be able to do; [Arthur] Sadoun is doing a great job," Tom Triscari, CEO and founder of Lemonade Projects, a programmatic ad agency, said of WPP's and Publicis' leaders, respectively.

Such a combo might be tricky to align culturally, though. A proposed merger between Publicis Groupe and Omnicom famously broke down in 2014 after they failed to agree on multiple fronts, including which agency would be seen as the acquirer and who would be appointed chief financial officer. It would also need to pass regulatory muster. That could be harder to do if the IPG and Omnicom deal succeeds, reducing the number of big agency groups in the sector. And there would be so much complexity that Publicis might not see the upside.

Another top holding company that could be active is Havas. Its parent, France's Vivendi, just approved its split into four companies. This is set to lead to Havas being publicly traded as its own company. Havas has indicated that it has M&A in its sights.

A number of other smaller, independent ad-holding companies could help bigger players scale up, like Mark Penn's Stagwell, the Bill Koenigsberg-led Horizon Media, or the Martin Sorrell-founded S4 Capital.

David Morgan, executive chairman of TV ad-buying company Simulmedia, said Horizon Media could be in play since Temasek, the investment firm that bought a minority share in 2021, needs an exit at some point.

Digital performance shops like PMG and Kepler also could be of interest.

Private equity has been circling

The big holding companies could also be a target for private-equity giants. Apollo, KKR, and Blackstone have shown interest in media and entertainment. Industry insiders have speculated for months that WPP, which once ranked as No. 1 among agency businesses, could be taken private — or at least some parts of it could be.

"They all see the same thing — these assets are bloated and mismanaged," said an industry player who's had conversations with PE firms. They asked for anonymity to preserve business relationships. Their identity is known to BI.

Another group of potential acquirers is companies like IBM and Capgemini, which provide a range of business solutions. Tata Consultancy Services and Accenture Song have eyed ad agencies as a way to offer end-to-end services to clients. Tata was in talks to buy R/GA this year and Accenture acquired creative agency Droga5 in 2019.

When it comes to deals that are just about getting bigger, though, there's plenty of skepticism that bulking up will solve the problems agencies face.

"Agencies today are not losing to the tech giants because of a shift in power," said Jay Friedman, CEO of the Goodway Group, a brand consulting firm. "They're losing because the capabilities they have aren't fit for how brands need to buy advertising today. They need a better cost model overall, which is global and AI-driven."

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Gary Vaynerchuk doubled his agency's revenue in 5 years. AI could make that growth more difficult in the future.

Gary Vaynerchuk speaks during VeeCon 2024 on August 11, 2024 in Los Angeles, California. (Photo by Chelsea Guglielmino/Getty Images)
Gary Vaynerchuk speaks during his entrepreneurship festival, VeeCon 2024.

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  • Gary Vaynerchuk says his company, VaynerX, is set to surpass $300 million in revenue this year.
  • He says VaynerX has doubled its revenue in the past five years by diversifying beyond social media.
  • But advertising firms like his face major disruption from generative AI.

Serial entrepreneur Gary Vaynerchuk built an advertising empire over the past 15 years by helping companies like PepsiCo and Mondelez jump on social media trends.

Now, his holding company, VaynerX, is on track to top $300 million in revenue this year, he told Business Insider. He said it also continues to be profitable. Most significantly: Its revenue has more than doubled in the past five years, Vaynerchuk said — a feat that way outpaces the ad industry overall.

Vaynerchuk, a colorful persona in an industry where legends David Ogilvy or Leo Burnett are largely a thing of the past, made a name for himself by identifying and jumping on the next big thing in consumer attention.

VaynerX has grown by adding other disciplines beyond social media marketing, including units focused on buying retail media and TV advertising and one focused on advising direct-to-consumer startups. It also benefits from Vaynerchuk's massive social following — including 15 million on TikTok alone — and his personal network.

Consulting is one of VaynerX's fastest-growing areas. The company started offering consulting in 2022, helping marketers with things like social media strategy and corporate communications. Consulting now represents 10% of revenue.

International expansion to areas like Asia-Pacific and Latin America is another growth area. VaynerX now employs nearly 2,000 employees from New York to Singapore, up from about 800 people in 2019 — and international work accounts for 20% of revenue. (As a private company, VaynerX doesn't release financial data, so BI couldn't independently verify its figures.)

Vaynerchuk said he sees the company's revenue doubling again in the next five years.

Still, the ad industry is staring down major potential disruption as generative AI threatens to automate some of the work agencies do, and many in the industry are wondering what Vaynerchuk's next big act will be. CMOs no longer have to be convinced to embrace social media, and many have bypassed agencies like VaynerX altogether to take that work in-house. Firms like VaynerX have had to diversify.

"The creative agencies are shrinking — holding companies downsize every year," said Michael Farmer, a consultant to ad agencies and marketers. "It's not a healthy business. Nobody knows what works."

Vaynerchuk still evangelizes to CMOs about the importance of social media marketing. But his passions have expanded to include Meta's Ray-Bans (Vaynerchuk is an investor in Meta), which he thinks could replace the mobile phone. He's big on live social shopping, which he predicts will blow up next year.

He's also styled himself as something of an AI guru. Vaynerchuk's stance is that business leaders should find a middle ground when it comes to the new technology.

"Don't demonize it, like, 'We'll never do AI; that's bad for humanity,'" he said. "Or the other way: 'Oh great, we don't need to do anything else; AI will take care of it.' So, let's not get too high on it. Let's not get too low on it."

Vaynerchuk urges clients to see AI's potential beyond just cost savings. "We talk about it from internal and external efficiencies of course, but clients are starting to understand the big game, which is, 'How do you earn views in social?'" he said. "And they're agnostic, whether that's an AI piece of creative or a human piece of creative. They just want to get the awareness and the consideration and the relevancy."

Social marketing is still central to the company's identity. One of Vaynerchuk's coups in 2023 was helping PepsiCo jump-start sales for Mug Root Beer by suggesting new uses for the 80-plus-year-old brand, like using it to make ramen and Boba tea.

Greg Lyons, CMO of PepsiCo's North American beverage business, said rather than going the traditional marketing route of spending a lot of money and time to come up with a single message, VaynerX's media agency, VaynerMedia, created a lot of social media posts and waited to see which ones took off before deciding which message to put dollars behind.

"The thing I love most about Vayner is that they're social-first, which means they understand what happens in culture very quickly," Lyons said. "They've shot Super Bowl ads in the past for us. But they're at their best when they're leaning into their core — they're best in the world at being social-first."

Read more about how Vaynerchuk's personal brand has evolved to stay current with the culture and how he uses it to fuel his many businesses.

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How hustle icon Gary Vee found his inner Ted Lasso

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The hustle mindset made Gary Vaynerchuk famous. But another quality has been increasingly important to the 49-year-old serial entrepreneur's staying power: empathy.

"So many of you are so much more capable than you think," Vaynerchuk said during his closing keynote at this year's VeeCon, an annual event designed to showcase his various interests, from blockchain to the creator economy. "And I can see it in your eyes that you don't think you can. And it's so blatantly obvious to me that you can. I just want all of you to know from the bottom of my heart, you're dramatically more capable than you think you are."

The audience ate it up.

Vaynerchuk, also known as Gary Vee, has built a legion of fans, many of whom are young men, by evangelizing hard work. He has 50 million social followers, including 15 million on TikTok. He's also drawn critics who say he glorifies a toxic hustle culture and capitalism. For years, his Twitter handle read "a dude that Loves the hustle." In recent years, though, his message has become less shouty and more affirmative, a shift that's coincided with a growing desire for empathy and national attention to the plight of young men.

This turn, like so many in Vaynerchuk's career, has involved a combination of personal branding and business. He launched a direct-to-consumer wine brand called Empathy Wines, which he later sold to Constellation Brands. He started VeeCon to sell his line of cartoon characters, VeeFriends, that personify positive characteristics, like Capable Caterpillar. It's partly this constant evolution — and ability to adapt to cultural trends — that has helped Vaynerchuk's 15-year-old advertising holding company, VaynerX, get on track to post $300 million in revenue this year. That figure, which he revealed for the first time to Business Insider, has more than doubled in the past five years and outpaced growth in the ad industry overall.

In the collection of podcasters and other media figures sometimes called the manosphere, Vaynerchuk is closer to Scott Galloway than Joe Rogan. His schtick lands with a generation that's grown up with — and is now exhausted by — social media, which encourages constant comparisons with others. He understands that many young men have fallen behind but aren't necessarily looking for a handout. Rather, they often want a path toward self-reliance.

Gary Vaynerchuk speaks during VeeCon 2024 on August 11, 2024 in Los Angeles, California
Gary Vaynerchuk speaks during VeeCon 2024 in Los Angeles.

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Vaynerchuk says his brand's softer turn started when he noticed a lot of fear in his DMs.

"I started to realize in probably in 2015 and '16 that there was just a lot more insecurity in the world," he told BI. "I think I took for granted how well I was parented. And that started me to really start to talk about the why, and that got me more into empathy."

Vaynerchuk has also maintained a safe distance from politics, which seems savvy now as some other CEOs clam up to avoid getting caught up in the culture wars.

"I was a no-go when it was much more popular five, seven years ago," he said of talking politics. "I don't trust the American consumer right now in that I just think we're overly emotional. We're very far away from the middle, and so I really couldn't find a way to feel great about it. I care about my employees too much and the thought of doing things that immediately makes half of them not feel good just did not feel right."

Friends float other theories for the gentler Vaynerchuk. He recently went through a divorce (and is now engaged). It's no longer the early days of the internet when you often had to be loud and obnoxious to get hidebound CMOs to pay attention to digital media. Whatever the reasons for the shift, it appears to be a good business move.

"In the beginning, it was, 'That's dumb, that's dumb,'" Jon Halvorson, SVP of Mondelez and a longtime client, said of Vaynerchuk's rhetoric. "I think it's appealing because a good yelling is fun, but people want a consistent partner. I don't want a rock star, I want Ted Lasso."

Can Vaynerchuk stay relevant in the AI age?

Vaynerchuk made a name for himself helping companies jump on social-media trends, but many in the industry are wondering what his next big act will be. CMOs no longer have to be convinced to embrace social media, and many have even bypassed agencies like VaynerX altogether to take that work in-house.

Agencies like VaynerX have had to diversify. Social marketing is still the company's core, but revenue is increasingly driven by other things like consulting and overseas expansion, which the company says now represent 10% and 20% of revenue, respectively. It employs nearly 2,000 employees from New York to Singapore, up from about 800 people in 2019. Vaynerchuk said he sees revenue doubling again in the next five years.

NEW YORK, NEW YORK - NOVEMBER 04: (L-R) Mona Vand and Gary Vaynerchuk attend 2024 Pencils of Promise (PoP) Gala: Dreams Fulfilled at The Ziegfeld Ballroom on November 04, 2024 in New York City.
Gary Vaynerchuk and Mona Vand attend 2024 Pencils of Promise gala in New York.

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Still, the ad industry is staring down major potential disruption as generative AI threatens to automate a lot of the work agencies do.

As for Vaynerchuk himself, he still bangs the drum about social-media marketing, but his passions have expanded to include Meta's Ray-Bans (Vaynerchuk is an investor in Meta), which he thinks could replace the phone. He's big on live social shopping, which he predicts will blow up next year.

He's also styled himself as something of an AI guru. Vaynerchuk's stance is that business leaders should find a middle ground — staking out a lane that it'd be hard to disagree with.

"Don't demonize it, like we'll never do AI; that's bad for humanity," he said. "Or the other way: 'Oh great, we don't need to do anything else; AI will take care of it.' So let's not get too high on it. Let's not get too low on it."

How the Vaynerchuk flywheel works

Vaynerchuk calls VaynerX the "operating system for everything I do professionally for the rest of my life."

When the Fox streaming service Tubi sought help promoting itself to Gen Z, Vaynerchuk tapped his influencer connections to help. Other work provided the basis for "The Z Suite," a workplace comedy starring Lauren Graham ("Gilmore Girls," "Parenthood") and set at a New York ad agency; Vaynerchuk is executive producing. Empathy Wines grew out of the company. VeeFriends promotes VeeCon, which in turn showcases Vaynerchuk's other businesses. The list goes on.

"He's proven you can take this value of a personal brand and use it to create value in other services," said Brian Morrissey, former president and editor in chief of Digiday and founder of The Rebooting, a newsletter focused on the media industry.

For CMOs, Vaynerchuk's massive social presence and ability to master the platform du jour is a big part of the value he brings.

"The fact he has 10 million followers on Instagram shows he understands how the platform works, so I do put a lot of weight on his recommendations," said Sandeep Seth, chief growth officer of Tapestry and CMO of its Coach brand. "He's not just selling me a theory. So I definitely value that expertise he brings."

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Vaynerchuk, pictured in New York, wants kids to learn soft skills.

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Being a CMO can also be a lonely job in the current market — they often have more responsibility and fewer resources to get it done, and their tenures are generally getting shorter — and he's won clients' loyalty by being available. Access to Vaynerchuk's personal network, nice wines, and, for the lucky few, a ride on a Vaynerchuk-chartered plane to industry events like the Forbes CMO Summit doesn't hurt.

"They get CMOs who are interested in a relationship with him," Halvorson said. "It creates a lot of inbound interest."

At a time when household names in advertising like legends David Ogilvy or Leo Burnett are largely gone, Vaynerchuk is something of an anomaly.

"In a world in which tech and data dominate, larger-than-life personalities are increasingly hard to find," said Andrew Essex, former CEO of Droga5 who's now senior managing partner at consulting giant TCS. "For some, a CEO with so much heart might feel anachronistic. Gary is the rare exception who can pull it off."

Is there a Vayner without Vaynerchuk?

The big question for many personality-led companies like Vaynerchuk's is whether they can transcend their leaders.

Walk around VaynerX, and its founder's presence is everywhere, from the framed inspirational quotes on the wall to the conference rooms named after his passions (the New York Jets, Empathy Wines). Naysayers say his personal brand is still bigger than his company; Vaynerchuk has 22 times as many followers on X as VaynerMedia. The agency isn't a huge buyer of TV advertising, which holds it back among marketers of a certain size, nor is it widely considered a destination for big-name execs or a feeder for prestigious marketers like Apple.

NEW YORK, NEW YORK - JUNE 14: Gary Vaynerchuk and Mark Rotblat speak onstage during Tribeca X in partnership with Tubi, Brand Storytelling and OKX at Spring Studios on June 14, 2023 in New York City. (Photo by Dave Kotinsky/Getty Images for 2023 Tribeca Festival)
Vaynerchuk, pictured at Tribeca X in New York, is a regular on the conference circuit.

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Vaynerchuk insists the company is no longer synonymous with him, thanks to the team he's built under him. In fact, he said, the onetime upstart is on such a strong footing now that he now worries about complacency setting in.

"I feel like very senior industry people would consider working at VaynerMedia where seven years ago they would laugh at the idea," he said. "So, I think we are the future establishment."

That's not to say he sees himself letting the place run without him.

Vaynerchuk said he sees himself naming his replacement in five to 10 years, at which point he would move into an active chairman role, running VeeFriends or scratching another longtime itch: buying and reviving bygone brands like Ocean Pacific.

"Could JC Penney's come back in a different form as a social live shopping show?" he mused.

Vaynerchuk prides himself on being a hands-off manager and says he'd let the new CEO run the company. But he won't disappear, either.

"I would just be driving another car, and if that person driving the VaynerX car would like me to come in and sit in the passenger seat and brainstorm some stuff or help, then I'm very there for that," he said.

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Vox Media is laying off staff as part of a reorg. Here's the memo outlining the changes.

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Vox Media CEO Jim Bankoff.

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  • Vox Media just cut some staff and reorganized its lifestyle brands.
  • CEO Jim Bankoff said the company was responding to constant change in the media business.
  • Thrillist will be operated by Eater, among other changes.

Vox Media just cut staff across its lifestyle brands, CEO Jim Bankoff announced in a memo to staff.

The parent of New York magazine, Vox, The Verge, and other popular media brands last laid off employees a year ago, when it cut 4% of staff. A Vox Media spokeswoman declined to say how many people were let go in the current reduction.

In the memo, which Business Insider obtained, Bankoff said the layoffs and "organizational changes" would impact Thrillist, PS, and Eater.

He said that, moving forward, Thrillist would be operated by Eater and that PS would "concentrate on its extensive footprint across social and video platforms with an even stronger emphasis on shopping."

Vox Media got the lifestyle brands Thrillist and PS (previously named PopSugar) when it acquired fellow digital media company Group Nine in early 2022. The deal was part of an ongoing consolidation of digital-media outlets to better compete for ad dollars with Google and Facebook. Digital publishing has generally struggled as Big Tech platforms have dominated digital ad spending.

Bankoff said in the memo that Vox Media would continue to focus on areas where it sees the most opportunity, including building direct audiences and its Vox Media Podcast Network. Vox Media also recently put tech-focused The Verge behind a paywall.

Here's the full memo from Bankoff:

Team,

Today, we're implementing role eliminations and organizational changes across our lifestyle brands (Thrillist, PS and Eater), Product, and the Media Production & Technology organization. All affected employees have been notified and are receiving transition support.

Each of our brands faces distinct market opportunities and challenges. As you know, the pace of change is accelerating for media businesses and it is essential to our success that we continuously evaluate how and where we invest to serve our audiences best to advance the long term health of our business.

In particular, the ways audiences are interacting with our Thrillist and PS brands have changed and we must adapt. Going forward, Thrillist will be operated by Eater, on a similar model to Punch, leveraging shared leadership and resources. PS will concentrate on its extensive footprint across social and video platforms with an even stronger emphasis on shopping. Eater is reorganizing its cities coverage into a regional model in order to most efficiently serve its audience's needs. The Product and Media Production & Technology organizations are being restructured to meet the current needs and scale of the business.

Throughout our history, we've led the digital media landscape because we've been willing to adapt and evolve as technology and the way people consume content change. These actions, while difficult, are consistent with our strategic priority to deepen audience connections to the brands and franchises that drive loyalty while ensuring our financial strength. As was the case this year, in 2025 we will continue to invest in our business where we see the clearest opportunities: editorial and user experiences that build loyal, direct audiences; a high-value advertising proposition based on unique intellectual property; strong brands that command audience attention; leading multimedia productions like we're building with the Vox Media Podcast Network; and consumer-direct businesses to diversify revenue streams and grow recurring revenue.

While our focus on improving our financial strength is always a priority, this year we have made meaningful progress to ensure our long-term profitability. This has meant difficult decisions and ongoing financial discipline about where we're investing and where we're pulling back. To our departing colleagues, I'm grateful for your contributions. To everyone at Vox Media, thank you for your continued commitment to our work.

Jim

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Here's why Netflix could raise prices again — soon

Jake Paul beat Mike Tyson in their highly-anticipated boxing match.
Jake Paul beat Mike Tyson in their highly anticipated boxing match on Netflix.

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  • New survey data from Evercore suggests Netflix has room to raise prices in the US.
  • The percentage of US subscribers who said they'd cancel in response to a price hike is well down.
  • Almost half indicated more live content like the Paul-Tyson fight could keep them from canceling.

Netflix's subscriber gains from its password-sharing crackdown could be waning, and some on Wall Street think it'll raise prices soon to keep its growth going.

New survey data from Evercore ISI just added fuel to the theory. Its quarterly survey of Netflix subscribers, published December 1, showed that Netflix is in a strong position in the US based on market penetration, satisfaction, and likelihood of canceling. Citibank analysts also recently wrote that Netflix could raise US prices by 12% in 2025.

In Evercore's survey, price sensitivity among US Netflix subscribers was lower than it had been in four years, which should make it easier for the streamer to push through price increases. When asked how they'd respond to a $1 a month price hike, 26% of 1,300 US respondents said they'd be highly likely to cancel, down from 45% who said so in August.

Consumers often overstate their willingness to cancel services in response to price increases, so those absolute numbers should be taken with a big grain of salt. Netflix has consistently had a lower cancellation rate than the other major streamers, even as it's raised prices over the years, according to the data firm Antenna.

When it came to penetration, Netflix continued to dominate, with 58% saying they watched the service in the past 12 months, up 1% from the previous quarter and ahead of Amazon's Prime Video (54%) and Disney's Hulu (44%).

A third factor, satisfaction, was the highest it had been since the third quarter of 2020, with 63% of those surveyed by Evercore saying they were "extremely/very satisfied" with the service.

In addition to a hit-filled third quarter ("The Perfect Couple," "Monsters: The Erik and Lyle Menendez Story," and more), Netflix has benefited from buzzy live events like the Jake Paul-Mike Tyson fight. Netflix's lower-priced ad tier has also increasingly kept people from canceling while giving the streamer cover to raise prices on its pricier, ad-free tiers. Live Christmas NFL games this month and WWE "Raw" starting in 2025 will likely drive more momentum, with 47% of those surveyed saying they would be more likely to keep Netflix if more live content were added.

Netflix has been raising prices roughly once a year, though unevenly among its various tiers. It's been over a year since the last increase, in October 2023, when Netflix raised the price of its Premium plan by $3 to $22.99 a month and upped the cost of its now-defunct Basic plan. The last time Netflix raised prices on its Standard ad-free plan was January 2022, when it raised it by $1.50 to $15.49.

When asked about price increases on Netflix's third-quarter earnings call in October, co-CEO Greg Peters said he saw a "tremendous amount of potential" if Netflix kept improving its TV and film offerings and expanded into new areas like live events. The company recently raised prices in Europe and Japan and said the results met expectations.

"Our approach towards pricing, it's been remarkably consistent over many, many years," Peters said on the call. "And our core theory is we've got to work really, really hard to make sure that we are delivering more value to members every quarter and then we sort of assess, based on how that's going, metrics like engagement, like acquisition, retention, did we do a good job there? How do we actually deliver on that promise of more value? And when we do, then we occasionally ask members to pay a bit more so we can invest that forward and keep that whole process going."

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The 5 biggest swings Netflix took this year — from a massive push into live sports to overhauling its film strategy

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In 2024, Netflix emerged as the irrefutable winner of the streaming wars.

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  • Netflix emerged as the winner of the streaming wars this year.
  • It's forecasting billions of dollars in profit, and its stock is rocketing.
  • From vast ad ambitions to zeitgeisty true crime fare, here are five of its biggest achievements.

The year 2024 has been one to remember for Netflix.

Crowned the winner of the streaming wars, the streamer solidified its already huge lead in subscribers — with more than 280 million paying users around the world as of the third quarter, generating billions of dollars in profit annually and sending its stock price soaring.

Meanwhile, Netflix continued to flex its first-mover advantage over cash-hungry rivals, who retrenched and returned to licensing their shows back to Netflix, which will likely fuel its continued dominance.

Netflix continues to put out hits that keep people watching and subscribing. Lately, it's been leaning into popular fare like true crime and live events that have big advertiser — and water-cooler — appeal.

It's continued to capitalize on its password-sharing crackdown and is ramping up ad tech and measurement deals to entice more advertisers to buy on the platform.

Netflix faces questions about how much more it can grow its audience without sacrificing profits, whether it can compete for ad dollars with the likes of Amazon's Prime Video, and how it can capture younger viewers who grew up on YouTube.

But for now, here's a look back at the biggest swings Netflix took this past year:

A massive push into live sports
Jake Paul beat Mike Tyson in their highly-anticipated boxing match.
Jake Paul defeated Mike Tyson in their highly-anticipated boxing match.

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Netflix swung big into live programming in 2024, a format that's key to its burgeoning ad business.

The streamer hosted its most-watched live event to date in November, a glitch-ridden boxing bout between Jake Paul and Mike Tyson that drew 60 million households as live viewers. And it'll close the year with another spectacle: its first Christmas Day NFL game, which will include Beyoncé performing at half-time.

Stellar advertising growth amid an executive shake-up
Peter Naylor at Netflix's 2024 upfront presentation.
Peter Naylor at Netflix's 2024 upfront presentation.

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Netflix has undergone leadership changes across multiple teams this year. In advertising, where the company harbors vast ambitions, Ampersand's Nicolle Pangis replaced Peter Naylor as VP of advertising.

The move came as Netflix reported stellar growth for ad-supported subscribers in 2024 — to the tune of 70 million, up from 40 million in May.

Next up for ads? Netflix is building its own ad technology to further open the spigot, which it said will roll out next year.

A leadership and strategy overhaul in film
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Netflix film boss Dan Lin entered with a streamlined strategy.

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At the beginning of the year, Netflix parted ways with longtime movie chief Scott Stuber.

The New York Times reported in April that Stuber clashed with higher-ups over what kind of movies to make. Chief Content Officer Bela Bajaria told staff in a meeting that quality needed to improve as the company shifted strategy.

Incoming film boss Dan Lin entered with a streamlined vision.

Rather than big-budget action films and big-name stars, he sought to diversify the company's offering, prioritizing in-house producers and skipping theatrical releases. Lin also ended the massive upfront checks the company had been writing to movie stars.

True crime hits with real-world consequences
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Nicholas Alexander Chavez and Cooper Koch in "Monsters: The Lyle and Erik Menendez Story."

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Netflix continued to focus on true crime this year. But while its series were enormously popular, some plunged the streamer into controversy.

The stalker saga "Baby Reindeer" and the scammer series "Inventing Anna" drew defamation suits, which Netflix said it would defend. And Netflix's two projects about the Menendez brothers — a Ryan Murphy-produced drama and an accompanying documentary — were also ensconced in controversy.

The brothers' families criticized the show, though Murphy has said the brothers should be grateful given the attention the project received. In October, Los Angeles's top prosecutor recommended the brothers be resentenced with the option of parole.

A password crackdown continued to fuel growth
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Netflix used to burn through money. Now it's minting cash.

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Subscribers initially balked at Netflix's bid to ban password sharing, but in the end, the streamer prevailed.

The move helped to fuel impressive earnings reports this year, with subscriber growth that repeatedly surpassed expectations — and caused its stock to soar.

While Netflix has emerged as the clear victor of the streaming wars, that wasn't always a foregone conclusion given the loads of debt it previously accrued to fund its production war chest. Today, the streamer is forecasting billions of dollars in profit while competitors struggle to break even.

That said, analysts expect the effects of Netflix's password crackdown to diminish in the future.

Correction: December 3, 2024 — The Paul-Tyson fight drew 60 million households, not people, as live viewers, Netflix said. An earlier version of this story misstated that figure.

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Disney's biggest wins this year — from a triumphant proxy war to getting back on track at the box office

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The Mouse House had a good 2024 — but challenges remain.

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  • Disney brought the magic in 2024, but it isn't out of the woods just yet.
  • Streaming turned a profit for the first time, and it righted the ship at the box office.
  • While CEO Bob Iger won a proxy battle, Trump's second term now looms.

After a string of challenges, Disney brought the magic in 2024.

It wasn't long ago that CEO Bob Iger was battling an expensive proxy fight, creative challenges, and streaming business losses.

Iger has put many of those concerns behind him. Disney fended off activist shareholder Nelson Peltz. And he addressed two areas that have been a big concern for Wall Street: returning the film division to profits with "Inside Out 2" and "Deadpool & Wolverine," and turning the corner in its streaming business.

On a fourth-quarter earnings call in November, a confident Iger projected rosy earnings all the way out to 2027 and was rewarded with a 9% surge in Disney's stock price.

Perhaps most important, after a botched succession in 2020, the company reassured critics that it's on track to name Iger's replacement in early 2026.

Disney isn't out of the woods just yet. It still faces the ongoing decline of its linear TV business. With another ESPN streamer in the works, its streaming offerings are multiplying, which risks consumer confusion. And some insiders have worried that a returning President Donald Trump could lead to retribution — or a chilling effect on the company's creative output and journalism — after Iger and Trump publicly sparred during Trump's first term.

Meanwhile, here's a look back at Disney's biggest wins of the past year:

For the first time, its streaming business became profitable
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Disney reported profits for its streaming business for the first time in August.

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Disney turned a crucial corner with its streaming business in 2024.

Services like Hulu and Disney+ generated a small but noteworthy profit — to the tune of $47 million — for the first time in the third quarter. In the fourth quarter, that figure grew to $321 million.

Subscription price hikes were key. The basic price for Disney+ is now $16 a month, compared to $7 when it launched in 2019. Iger said on a call with investors this month that in raising prices, the company sought to move users toward ad-supported subscription options.

Edging forward on succession
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After a botched attempt in 2020, Disney will name Bob Iger's successor in 2026.

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Disney has given itself a self-imposed deadline of 2026 to name Iger's successor — which is when the executive's contract expires and is longer than some had anticipated.

After Iger's last succession plan fell flat, resulting in his return to the company in 2022, this time the effort is being spearheaded by Morgan Stanley's James Gorman.

Four internal candidates have been floated: Disney Entertainment cochair Dana Walden, movie head Alan Bergman, Disney Experiences chair Josh D'Amaro, and ESPN chair Jimmy Pitaro. Disney is also considering outsiders, though no frontrunner has emerged.

Getting back on track with box office hits
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"Deadpool & Wolverine," a massive hit, was the only Marvel movie Disney released this year.

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Iger acknowledged last year that Disney movies weren't what they used to be in terms of quality following box office disappointments like "Elemental," "The Little Mermaid," and "Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania."

But in 2024, Disney righted the ship. "Inside Out 2" broke the record for an animated movie opening, while "Deadpool & Wolverine" — the only film from the Marvel Cinematic Universe it released this year after the company decided to slow its roll — was an irrefutable smash, signaling a possible antidote to superhero fatigue.

Betting big on experiences
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Disney has pledged a $60 billion investment into its Experiences division over the next decade.

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Experiences are key to Disney's future, with Chairman Josh D'Amaro overseeing a $60 billion investment over the next decade into park expansion — and the company's most ambitious foray yet into gaming, according to The Hollywood Reporter.

New attractions and lands inspired by hit films like "Avatar" and "Monsters, Inc." will arrive at parks worldwide, according to THR, and four new cruise ships will roughly double its fleet by the end of the decade.

Disney also placed its biggest bet to date on gaming earlier this year with a $1.5 billion investment in Epic Games. Disney will work with the "Fortnite" studio to develop an interactive space inspired by its IP.

Iger triumphed in the Peltz proxy battle (but now must face Trump)
Disney CEO Bob Iger and Trian Partners founder Nelson Peltz.
Activist investor Nelson Peltz has criticized Disney's succession planning, streaming losses, and stock performance.

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Iger won a lengthy and expensive proxy battle against activist investor Nelson Peltz in April after shareholders voted to keep the CEO and Disney management's board over two new members nominated by Peltz's firm.

Peltz has criticized Disney's succession planning, streaming losses, and stock performance.

But looking ahead, Iger could be facing another threat when Trump takes office again — with its ABC News division having already drawn the president-elect's ire. While Iger criticized Trump during his first term, he appears to be remaining on the political sidelines this time around.

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Walmart is betting this holiday movie can get you to spend more

Promo for "Jingle Bell Love," a Roku original.
Walmart sponsored "Jingle Bell Love," a Roku Original movie.

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  • This month, Walmart launched its first shoppable feature film, "Jingle Bell Love," with Roku.
  • It's ramping up its efforts this holiday to get people to shop while watching TV.
  • Walmart made some key changes to its shoppable entertainment strategy this year.

Walmart is making its biggest push yet this holiday season to get people to shop while watching TV by debuting its first feature-length movie.

Last year, Walmart brought viewers "Add to Heart," a rom-com series with integrated shopping features that was designed to be watched on social media. It's building on that this year by sponsoring its first "shoppable" feature film, "Jingle Bell Love," which is a Roku Original movie.

"Jingle Bell Love" is streaming now on The Roku Channel. Here's the logline: Jack Cooper, played by Joey McIntyre from "New Kids on the Block," visits his late wife's hometown for Christmas and gets more than he bargained for when his 10-year-old daughter matches him up with a local shop owner (Michelle Morgan).

Last year's "Add to Heart" was a test for Walmart to see if it could get people to shop directly while watching episodic TV. Online reviewers were mixed in their assessments: Some said the quality of the series was decent while others criticized the script and said the shopping experience felt clunky.

Walmart didn't share specific results of last year's experiment but made some key tweaks this time around:

  • First, "Jingle Bell Love" is a feature film. Walmart learned that the longer people watched, the more likely they were to shop, and it hopes a film will encourage people to watch from start to finish.
  • Walmart also produced "Add to Heart" itself, while "Jingle Bell Love" is a Roku production.
  • "Add to Heart" crammed 330 shoppable products into the show. "Jingle Bell Love," in contrast, doesn't have any direct product integration. Instead, there are two "shoppable moments" featuring overlays with five Walmart products that are contextually relevant to the scene that people can buy directly on their TVs.
  • During its "Add to Heart" launch, Walmart found people wanted more and easier ways to shop. This year, it's added the ability for people to link their Walmart and Roku accounts by clicking an ad on the screen with their remote, which sends a prompt to their phone to sign in to Walmart.com. From there, whenever a Roku user reaches the checkout screen, their Walmart payment details are pre-populated so they can buy with a single tap.

"'Add to Heart' was one of the first times that we really created that fully shoppable type of video experience," Aimee Roesler, senior director of social commerce at Walmart, told Business Insider. "One of our key insights is that it can be very hard to shop from your remote control."

Are people ready for shoppable TV?

Retailers have been pushing "shoppable TV" — where people can buy products straight from their TV sets — for some time as they try to drive sales and media companies try to connect ads to business results.

For instance, during the CMT Music Awards in April, Paramount used QR codes to try to get people to buy items inspired by the red carpet looks. NBCUniversal had a tool that let people order food while watching the Olympics this summer.

Still, there's been a big challenge for these efforts: Shopping on TV isn't the most natural behavior for viewers. Add the fact that shoppable TV doesn't always fit neatly into ad agencies' buying practices, and it's been slow to take off.

Christopher Vollmer, a partner and managing director at UTA's MediaLink, said retailers and media companies have gotten smarter about shoppable TV, knowing video content is where most consumers discover new brands and products. He sees them increasingly prioritizing premium content environments like sports for their efforts, as that's where there are big, live audiences. This year, for example, Walmart and NBCUniversal are bringing shoppable ads to a Thanksgiving Day NFL game.

As the biggest US retailer, Walmart has a strong incentive to figure it out. The company has been experimenting in many ways. It's trying shoppable ads on social media, gaming platforms, and streaming TV.

Walmart said Roku was a natural partner, as 78% of the platform's audience are Walmart shoppers. Despite the large customer overlap, in the past couple of years of testing, Walmart said 70% of its shoppers from Roku were new to Walmart.com.

"Now we've gained a new type of shopping behavior and a new customer who has typically shopped our store now is shopping our store and our website, which is very, very exciting," Roesler said.

Walmart ambient video inspired by Luke's Diner of "Gilmore Girls."
Walmart ambient video inspired by Luke's Diner of "Gilmore Girls."

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"Jingle Bell Love" isn't the only way Walmart will try to get people to shop from their TVs this holiday season. It created four videos — inspired by the YouTube ambient room trend — that are meant to immerse the viewer in a pleasant environment. All are shoppable with QR codes linking to decor and gifts sold at Walmart. The rooms portray a cozy chalet, a festive holiday party scene, Santa's reindeer in flight, and Luke's Diner of "Gilmore Girls" (an example of Walmart's effort to integrate itself into the culture). They'll be streamed on YouTube, YouTube TV, and Roku starting December 3.

Shoppable ad breaks will also pop up during a family movie night series in which Walmart is teaming up with Roku to offer classics like "Stuart Little" and "Miracle on 34th Street" on The Roku Channel.

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Progressive news outlet NowThis made deep cuts to its staff for the second time this year

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  • NowThis laid off about half its unionized newsroom, marking the second deep round of cuts this year.
  • The layoffs affected 13 of NowThis' 21 WGA East members.
  • A softness in digital advertising has led to widespread media layoffs in recent years.

NowThis recently laid off about half its unionized newsroom, the second round of deep cuts this year at the progressive digital news outlet.

The layoffs impacted 13 of NowThis' 21 members of WGA East, which represents the newsroom, a union representative told Business Insider. NowThis notified the laid-off staffers on November 15. The company also recently let go of three people on the sales side, a person close to NowThis told BI. They asked for anonymity because they weren't authorized to speak publicly about the cuts. Their identity is known to BI.

A NowThis spokesperson confirmed the layoffs to BI and said the company remained committed to making "impactful content."

In September, NowThis hired a new editor-in-chief, Michael Vito Valentino, formerly of Fallen Media and MTV, as it looked to shift focus to Gen-Z audiences.

NowThis was once a fast-growing digital news outlet that took off among young consumers. It soared in popularity by making short-form, text-on-screen videos — often about politics or social issues — that spread widely on social media. It joined Vox Media through Vox's 2021 acquisition of Group Nine Media. Vox spun NowThis off in 2023 through a deal with Accelerate Change, a nonprofit focused on promoting civic engagement among underrepresented groups. Vox retained a minority stake in the company and has an arrangement to sell advertising for NowThis.

A Vox Media spokesperson referred a request for comment to NowThis.

At the time of the spinoff, the plan was for NowThis to ramp up to cover the 2024 election. Accelerate Change is backed by progressive organizations such as the Open Society Foundations, which was founded by George Soros, the billionaire investor and major Democratic political donor. It also backs other news outlets, including ParentsTogether, PushBlack, Pulso, and Noticias Para Inmigrantes.

The earlier round of layoffs at NowThis, in February, curtailed some of the company's coverage ambitions, though. That round impacted 26 of its 50 members of WGA East. At the time, the company said the reduction was meant to ensure the business was sustainable, and that no more cuts were planned.

Many news media outlets have been hit by layoffs in recent years amid a general softness in digital advertising spending. Outplacement firm Challenger, Gray & Christmas tracked 3,402 job cuts in news so far this year through September, up 40% from 2,423 cuts during the year-earlier period.

After this story's publication, WGA East gave a statement to BI about the recent layoffs:

On Friday, November 15, at around 8:30 AM, 13 of the 21 remaining NowThis WGAE members were laid off immediately upon receipt of an email notice. The layoffs eliminated 3 of 4 members of the publishing team, 3 of 4 video editors, 3 of 7 Producers and Senior Producers, the sole Senior Motion Graphics Designer, the sole Senior Writer, the sole Senior Insights Analyst, and the sole Audience Strategist. The barebones group of remaining salaried workers at NowThis will now be forced to meet tight deadlines and increasing pressure without proper teams to support them.

In late October the company celebrated their "new editorial vision and advisory board" at an influencer-filled, private party. Mere weeks later, workers were blindsided by the news that the Company's "new editorial vision" apparently includes slashing their already stretched-thin teams.

At the start of 2022, there were 65 unit members at NowThis. Today, only 8 remain.

These reckless and cruel layoffs run completely counter to NowThis's self-professed "human-centered" approach to storytelling. The Guild stands in solidarity with the workers who built this company, only to be shown the door at the beginning of the holiday season.

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How Netflix has changed the global entertainment industry

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Benedict Wong and Liam Cunningham in "3 Body Problem."

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  • Netflix continues to rewrite the playbook for global entertainment.
  • It's solidified its position as the dominant streamer.
  • It now faces new challenges as it enters the advertising and gaming markets.

Since Netflix began its worldwide expansion in 2016, the streaming service has rewritten the playbook for global entertainment — from TV to film, and, more recently, live entertainment and video games.

Hollywood used to export most global hit series and movies. Through Netflix's investments in international TV and film, programs like South Korea's "Squid Game" and France's "Lupin" have found massive audiences around the world. Netflix's English-language originals, such as Shonda Rhimes' "Bridgerton," Ryan Murphy's "Dahmer," and Tim Burton's "Wednesday," have also broken the streamer's internal streaming viewership records. And Netflix has moved into live programming like sports and comedy. 

Netflix has generally been declared the winner of the streaming wars, especially after the 2023 writers' and actors' strikes shut down Hollywood production and other streamers retrenched to stem losses. Its stock hit an all-time high this year while other media companies floundered, and it's making headway with its crackdown on password sharing and its ad-supported subscription tier. Cash-hungry rivals have returned to licensing their shows back to Netflix, which could help make the streamer even more dominant.

Netflix's impact on the global TV industry remains undeniable. Still, it now faces fresh questions about its audience growth potential, ability to compete for ad dollars with the likes of Amazon's Prime Video, and opportunity to capture younger viewers who are more drawn to YouTube than traditional TV and film.

How Netflix disrupted the global TV industry

To thrive on an international stage, Netflix sought both US mass-market programming like "Stranger Things" as well as local content that could win over viewers in specific markets (and produce breakout hits).

The strategy helped the streaming service grow its customer base to more than 282 million global subscribers. Its momentum also reinvigorated production in places like Germany, Mexico, and India.

More recently, it, along with other streamers, has sought broadcast network-type shows that will grab broad viewership, plus fewer, lower-budget movies under new film chief Dan Lin. It's also dipped into live programming like sports and comedy. While its highly anticipated fight between Mike Tyson and Jake Paul on November 15 was rife with streaming glitches, Netflix said it drew 60 million households, showing its ability to get huge viewership for live programming.  

More on Netflix's changing content direction:

Netflix shook up its leadership to reflect a changing business

After breaking all of Hollywood's rules and disrupting the entertainment industry, Netflix — since its first-ever subscriber loss — has been breaking its own rules, reversing its stances on password sharing and advertising.

It also shook up its leadership in 2023, elevating Greg Peters to co-CEO, reflecting its shift to new revenue streams, alongside Ted Sarandos, as cofounder Reed Hastings moved to executive chair.

Meanwhile, TV head Bela Bajaria was named chief content officer, with film reporting to her. 

An elite team of interdisciplinary execs helps make Netflix's biggest decisions. Known internally as the "Lstaff" — the "L" stands for leadership — the group sits between the company's officers and its larger executive corps of vice presidents and above, who are called the "Estaff."

More on Netflix's corporate structure:

Netflix continues to grow, despite layoffs

Netflix has laid off hundreds of staffers over the past couple of years as the broader media and entertainment space grapples with a bear market.

Still, it has remained a desirable place to work in recent years despite some tests its corporate culture has faced. While hiring has slowed, it's still adding employees to maintain its lead over other paid streamers and fuel its global expansion.

More on Netflix's business model and company culture:

Netflix is moving into advertising and gaming

Netflix faces more competition from TV viewers than ever from traditional media companies like Disney and Warner Bros. Discovery and tech players Apple, Amazon, and YouTube, many of which are further along in selling ads and offering live sports programming.

The competition is pushing Netflix to continue evolving. It introduced a cheaper, ad-supported tier in late 2022 to combat slowing subscriber growth, and claimed 70 million global users of the ad tier in November. It started building a video games business in 2021 and has been selling merchandise and experiences tied to series like "Squid Game" and "Bridgerton."  

But the ad tier has been slow to meet the scale demanded by advertisers, while its games have yet to take off. This summer, Netflix shook up its games leadership and shut down a unit dedicated to developing elaborate "Triple-A" games to focus on casual games. Netflix also laid off a few dozen gaming employees.

Netflix has repeatedly said both businesses would grow slowly and that it expected games to be a small part of its business. It's introducing tech to grow its advertising sales and adding live events such as the Tyson-Paul fight, two NFL Christmas Day games, and WWE fights — things that are catnip to advertisers.

More on Netflix's advertising and gaming ambitions: 

Elaine Low contributed to an earlier version of this post.

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CNBC's new boss reassures staffers jittery over their network getting spun off: 'Predator, not prey'

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Mark Lazarus will be in charge of CNBC after the spinoff as CEO of SpinCo.

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  • Incoming boss Mark Lazarus addressed the CNBC newsroom Thursday.
  • The day before, CNBC anchors had made bleak jokes on-air about Comcast's spinoff plans.
  • Three CNBC staffers told BI the mood inside the company seemed upbeat during Lazarus' visit.

In a meeting at CNBC headquarters in New Jersey on Thursday afternoon, incoming boss Mark Lazarus presented a bullish view of the future after the bombshell news that Comcast would spin off the network.

Three CNBC staffers told Business Insider they felt Lazarus' optimistic talk landed well in the newsroom. They asked for anonymity to discuss internal meetings. Their identities are known to BI.

The vibe was a bit of contrast to Wednesday, when Comcast announced plans to spin off most of its NBCUniversal cable TV networks — including CNBC — into a separate public company called SpinCo (for now). On Wednesday, CNBC anchors shared some worries and dark humor on-air, with "Squawk Box" coanchor Joe Kernan quipping, "We're going out into the cold, cruel world."

Lazarus, who will be SpinCo's CEO, addressed a packed newsroom Thursday at CNBC and didn't hold a Q&A, though he mingled with staff and took questions one-on-one afterward. While speaking with staff, Lazarus said the new company would keep the money generated by its properties and pursue other M&A targets, describing it as entrepreneurial and flexible, one CNBC staffer said.

Lazarus said SpinCO "would be a predator, not prey" and examine various targets "like digital businesses and IP," a second CNBC staffer recalled.

A third staffer said Lazarus talked about the SpinCo having the ability to invest in its cable networks, giving the example of the Golf Channel as one that's thrived digitally.

The first staffer said that after the meeting, talks in the hallway seemed upbeat. That said, CNBC has undergone several rounds of layoffs over the past year, they added.

"People felt better than they did when it first started," the third staffer said. "The plan isn't just to dress it up for PE."

In addition to CNBC, Comcast is spinning off MSNBC, E!, and Oxygen — but holding onto Bravo, whose "Real Housewives" shows and other reality fare are inexpensive to produce and integral to its Peacock streaming service.

Before his meeting with CNBC staff on Thursday, Lazarus and MSNBC president Rashida Jones spoke to execs, producers, anchors, and hosts at MSNBC on Wednesday, Vanity Fair reported.

There were also signs of optimism there, with host Rachel Maddow saying it was positive to have Lazarus there on "day one," Vanity Fair reported. Still, reporting from The Ankler described the meeting as "intense."

Comcast is going forward with the spinoff — which it says will take about a year to complete — amid sagging prospects in the cable TV business. And it's not alone. Disney chairman and CEO Bob Iger previously floated the idea of spinning off its cable channels, but the company has more recently retreated.

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CNBC anchors shared worries and dark humor on air as Comcast looks to unload the network

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CNBC's Joe Kernan spoke on air about the spinoff.

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  • CNBC anchors projected an air of mild panic about the news that Comcast would spin off the network.
  • The media conglomerate announced it would create a new entity for most of its cable networks.
  • Some NBCU insiders worry about the new entity's prospects and potential staff cuts.

CNBC anchors turned their signature irreverent style on themselves on Wednesday as their parent company, Comcast, became a headline in announcing plans to spin off the business-news network along with many other cable assets.

"We're going out into the cold, cruel world," Joe Kernan, a coanchor of "Squawk Box," quipped on air.

It's no secret that the cable business has long been in decline as viewers drift to streaming services. A fellow CNBC anchor, David Faber, came up with an analogy to describe the situation: "We've been on a life raft, and it's kind of been sinking. Now we're all going to be able to swim for ourselves, you know, so it's up to us."

"Maybe we can latch on to a bunch of other people drowning," Kernan replied.

Comcast brass presented the deal, in which it will spin off nearly all of its cable networks into a separate entity headed by Mark Lazarus, now the chairman of NBCUniversal's media group, as a way to grow its remaining businesses while enabling the spun-off networks to consolidate with others.

Bravo, the home of the "Real Housewives" franchises and other reality fare, will remain part of NBCU, along with its film and TV studios, the Universal theme park, the NBC broadcast network, and the streaming service Peacock.

"That Lazarus guy, he's amazing," Faber said, adding that he was "just trying to get on his good side."

Analysts — including those featured on CNBC — didn't hold back on Wednesday about what the spinoff means for the cable network.

"This is them saying we no longer want to be in this business, this is no longer a growth business," Rich Greenfield, a cofounder of LightShed Partners, said of Comcast during a CNBC segment. For CNBC specifically, he said, the question is "can these networks stand on their own?"

"Rich, I think I like you less today," Becky Quick, an anchor on "Squawk Box," responded later in the broadcast.

CNBC's Julia Boorstin laid out questions about the deal, suggesting the so-called SpinCo could make meaningful acquisitions from other media companies in transition, like Warner Bros. Discovery, Paramount, and Starz.

"One of my sources very close to the situation said, 'This isn't the end, this is the beginning,'" she said. "The question is what else does this company acquire, how do they try to squeeze as much revenue as possible from these linear networks, and what do they do with them from a digital perspective in terms of streaming. And what do they do in terms of non-television revenues, things like events, things like communities."

Elsewhere, others inside NBCU had their own questions and concerns about the spinoff.

One question for CNBC folks is whether they'll maintain the prestige and workplace benefits that came with being part of Comcast. There's also a question of what separating MSNBC could mean for NBC News and local NBC stations. MSNBC's left-leaning tilt has sometimes complicated things for straight news-focused NBC News and local NBC stations.

Anxiety was running high among some staffers at CNBC in London, who worried that international offices could be hit first by any cuts in shows or personnel resulting from a spinoff. These people, like some others in the story, spoke on the condition of anonymity for fear of workplace repercussions. Their identities are known to Business Insider.

One concern is that the spinoff could make it harder for NBCU's separate but co-owned news outlets to compete. NBC and CNBC have closely collaborated on reporting about topics like Elon Musk's role in the Trump administration that draws from CNBC's business expertise. NBC also relies on CNBC's sports coverage.

An NBC News staffer told BI that some in the newsroom felt "blindsided" by the news.

"The message has been to integrate as much as possible, so I definitely think this raises a lot of questions about whether that can continue," this person said.

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Comcast is getting rid of most of its cable channels. Read the memo to staff.

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  • Comcast plans to spin off the bulk of its NBCUniversal cable channels.
  • The planned spinoff includes MSNBC, CNBC, E!, and Oxygen, among others.
  • NBC, Bravo, and the streaming service Peacock would not be spun off under the plan.

Comcast is planning to break off the bulk of its cable television channels.

The plan to spin off some NBCUniversal channels includes MSNBC, CNBC, USA, Oxygen, E!, Syfy, and the Golf Channel, while NBC, Bravo, and the streaming service Peacock will remain under NBCUniversal, Comcast president Mike Cavanagh announced in a memo to NBCU employees viewed by Business Insider.

The assets that are part of the planned spinoff generated $7 billion in revenue during the year that ended in September, according to The Wall Street Journal, which first reported that the spinoff was going ahead.

The spinoff, dubbed "SpinCo" for now, which would take about a year, will enable growth in NBCUniversal's remaining assets, Cavanagh wrote in his memo.

"The well-capitalized, independent company will be positioned to lead in the changing landscape for cable networks given the strength of its portfolio and the quality and focus of its management team," Cavanagh wrote. "SpinCo will provide a diverse and differentiated content offering that will reach approximately 70 million U.S. households, making it highly attractive to investors, content creators, distributors, consumers, and potential partners. The company will have significant cash flow, a strong balance sheet, and the financial flexibility to pursue growth opportunities, both organically and potentially through acquisitions."

He wrote that the new entity's ownership structure would be similar to Comcast's and that Mark Lazarus, currently chairman of NBCUniversal's media group, would be named CEO.

Comcast said it was exploring spinning off its cable networks late last month, with BI's Peter Kafka writing that the move served as yet another signal of cable TV's decline.

Analysts said Comcast could increase its valuation by selling its cable networks, though they were unsure if it would actually work out, BI previously reported.

"Carving out the US cable networks, which include USA, CNBC, and E!, without Peacock or the NBC broadcast network would be odd," Michael Hodel, a media analyst at financial-services firm Morningstar, previously wrote. "The cable networks likely have little value on their own. A spinoff would have to be part of a larger strategic move, like merging with another firm."

Other media giants are wrestling with what to do about their declining traditional TV channels. Disney CEO Bob Iger in the past floated the idea of selling Disney's TV and cable channels. On its earnings call last week, Disney retreated that idea, though, suggesting that the price wouldn't be high enough and that it would be too complex to separate them from the rest of the company.

That complexity hovers over Comcast as well. NBCU's various TV channels are tightly integrated, sharing back-office functions and talent that would have to be untangled, for one.

This article was originally published on November 19 and has been updated with new details of the planned spinoff.

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