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Windsurf's CEO says big teams can kill new ideas

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Windsurf's CEO Varun Mohan recommends keeping early-stage product teams lean β€” ideally just three to four people.

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  • Having as many as 10 people working on an unproven idea can backfire fast, said Windsurf's CEO.
  • Varun Mohan said on a podcast that it's "very hard" for big teams to "get alignment."
  • Early-stage product teams should ideally have three to four people, he added.

When it comes to building new products, a bigger team isn't always better. It might be what kills the idea altogether, said Windsurf's CEO, Varun Mohan.

Mohan said on an episode of the "Twenty Minute VC" podcast published Monday that having as many as 10 people working on an unproven idea can backfire fast.

"Everyone has opinions. Everyone has ideas. And nobody's ideas are wrong β€” because no one has proven anything," he said.

"It's very hard to get alignment. It's very hard for people to work in one direction without causing communication issues," he added.

Windsurf, founded in 2021 as Codeium, created an AI-powered coding development tool and has been riding the vibe coding wave. According to PitchBook, it has raised $243 million in VC funding.

Mohan recommends keeping early-stage product teams lean β€” ideally just three to four people.

It could be a couple of engineers and a designer β€” or if it's a pure systems problem, just engineers, he added.

A small, "opinionated" group moving fast to prove an idea is "actually really good," he said.

Even a "crappy" version of a great idea is "already amazing," he said.

"Once you've proven the crappy version has legs, you can then go and resource more people on the project to actually go out and and pursue it more deeply."

Windsurf isn't the only startup espousing small teams. Some of AI's biggest names have built upon tiny teams, such as Anysphere, the maker of coding copilot Cursor.

The advent of AI has also enabled startups to do more with less, prompting some founders to maintain extremely lean teams.

"We're going to see 10-person companies with billion-dollar valuations pretty soon," OpenAI's CEO, Sam Altman, said in February 2024.

No budgets set for new ideas

Mohan also said that Windsurf doesn't set specific budgets for these early-stage projects.

"We're in an unconstrained market," he said. Technology that could accelerate software development "is so valuable" to customers that the company doesn't approach new ideas with fixed budget constraints, he added.

Instead, Windsurf evaluates progress over time and decides whether to keep going, hit pause, or shift resources elsewhere.

"That's not a democratic process," Mohan added. "It's a little bit of a top-down process."

Windsurf did not respond to a request for comment from Business Insider.

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Europe might be increasing its defense spending, but it's moving too slowly to be ready for Russia, says Saab CEO

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Saab produces the Gripen E, its latest version of its jet fighter that's made to fight Russia.

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  • Saab CEO Micael Johansson is worried that the European process will drag its defense build-up.
  • He told BI that, as an example, Sweden's spending hike could take years to become contract orders.
  • European leaders have been warning that they only have four years to deter a serious Russian threat.

Saab's CEO Micael Johansson said that while Europe's leaders have announced huge defense spending hikes, the continent's current processes are slowing it down too much.

"Now, we want to spend like 3.5% to 5% of GDP on defense. But then, when you start getting into the normal processes in terms of, okay, defense forces have to decide what to spend the money on, and then it has to be acquired by someone," Johansson told Business Insider on the sidelines of the Shangri-La Dialogue.

"The process is much too long still. It takes a long time before it gets into industry," he said, adding that he was worried about the gap.

As an example, Johansson said any recent boosts in Sweden's defense spending would take military authorities "six months roughly" to decide what to spend the funds on. And that's before acquisition and matΓ©riel officials come into the mix, he said.

Stockholm aims to increase defense spending from 2.4% of its GDP this year to 3.5% by 2030.

"And so we're still looking at a couple of years before you actually get going, which is not good enough, I think, in times of war. Which is tragic," Johansson said, who was elected president of the Aerospace, Security and Defence Industries Association of Europe last month.

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Saab CEO Micael Johansson is concerned that Europe's processes are too slow for the continent to be ready for Russia.

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At the same time, the CEO raised concerns about Russia's war footing manufacturing capability, estimating that Moscow was making up about five times as many artillery shells as all of Europe yearly.

"Europe has to take its own responsibility, so we need to have integrated our missile defense systems, the collaborative combat aircraft, we need to have space technology, we need to have hubs where we can do ammunition manufacturing," he said.

At the Dialogue, which ran from Friday to Sunday, Germany's defense chief, Gen. Carsten Breuer, raised a similar issue for his country.

"I think in Germany we are facing a situation, or at least we faced a situation, where we had processes over processes and processes, and all those processes were developed not to spend any money," Breuer said at a panel on Saturday. "Because we had enough time, but we did not have the money."

Breuer said that if German officials deemed a process was moving too quickly, they would "then develop an additional process to slow it down."

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Gen. Carsten Breuer said his country has had a culture of slowing itself down with processes to avoid spending on defense.

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European military officials have warned that their nations must be ready for a possible conflict with Russia by 2029, when they estimate that Moscow would be strong enough to launch an attack on the Baltic states.

Anxieties on the continent have been compounded by the second Trump administration's signaled reluctance to continue supporting regional defense in areas where European states are falling short.

President Donald Trump has called for NATO's European members to hike defense spending to 5% of their GDP. Some, such as Germany, have signaled an openness to such an eventual arrangement.

Saab, which manufactures the Gripen fighter jet that's geared toward fighting Russian threats, has seen a rapid surge in demand since the war in Ukraine began in 2022. The Nordics' biggest defense manufacturer reported 2024 annual sales of 63.75 billion Swedish krona, or about $6.6 billion. By comparison, annual revenue in 2021 was 39.15 billion krona.

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Jamie Dimon says the markets feel 'complacent' right now — and he's not optimistic about a soft landing

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"There's so many things moving out there, from deficits to geopolitics, to trade. It's complex, and something can go wrong," JPMorgan CEO Jamie Dimon said of the market.

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  • Jamie Dimon said people are getting complacent about the market.
  • Dimon said the "odds of that are lower than other people think" and they could be in for a surprise.
  • "Big Short" investor Steve Eisman said the market was underestimating the impact of Trump's tariffs.

JPMorgan CEO Jamie Dimon said people could be in for a surprise when they realize that the market is not doing as well as they think.

Dimon was speaking to Fox Business' Maria Bartiromo for an interview filmed on Friday, which aired on Monday. During the sit-down, Bartiromo asked him about his thoughts on how the markets are doing.

"Complacent. Prices are high. Things are going okay. Prices are kind of working to a soft landing. I hope that's true. I just think the odds of that are lower than other people think, and that they are gonna surprise," Dimon told Bartiromo.

"There's so many things moving out there, from deficits to geopolitics, to trade. It's complex, and something can go wrong. And when things do, you usually get surprised," he continued.

A representative for Dimon did not respond to a request for comment from Business Insider.

Dimon had made a similar warning when he spoke at the Reagan National Economic Forum on Friday. Dimon said the US is headed for a "crack in the bond market" because it "massively overdid" spending and quantitative easing during the COVID-19 pandemic.

"It is going to happen," Dimon told forum attendees.

"I just don't know if it's going to be a crisis in six months or six years, and I'm hoping that we change both the trajectory of the debt and the ability of market makers to make markets," he added.

But Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent disagreed with Dimon.

"I've known Jamie a long time and for his entire career he's made predictions like this. Fortunately, none of them have come true," Bessent said in an interview on CBS' "Face the Nation" on Sunday.

"That's why he's a banker, a great banker. He tries to look around the corner," Bessent continued.

House Republicans passed President Donald Trump's "big beautiful bill" on May 22. GOP lawmakers hope the bill, which is now with the Senate, will be reach Trump's desk on July 4.

The Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget said the bill, in its current form, will increase the deficit by $2.5 trillion over the next 10 years.

Bessent, however, said the Trump administration plans to reduce the deficit and "leave the country in great shape in 2028."

"So the deficit this year is going to be lower than the deficit last year, and in two years it will be lower again. We are going to bring the deficit down slowly. We didn't get here in one year, and this has been a long process," he told CBS on Sunday.

To be sure, Dimon isn't the only one who thinks the market has grown complacent.

On Monday, "Big Short" investor Steve Eisman told CNBC's "Fast Money" that the market has "gotten pretty complacent" about tariffs.

"I have one concern, and that's tariffs. That's it," Eisman said, adding that trade negotiations with Europe will be "incredibly complicated."

"And I don't know what's going to happen with China. I just don't know how to handicap this because it's just too many balls in the air," he continued.

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Brooklyn and Nicola Peltz Beckham share the one relationship rule they swear by

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Brooklyn and Nicola Peltz Beckham agree that honesty is important to build mutual trust.

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  • Brooklyn and Nicola Peltz Beckham say honesty is the key to a strong marriage.
  • The eldest son of the Beckham family, 26, and the billionaire heiress, 30, married in 2022.
  • Their absence from David Beckham's 50th birthday party photos fueled rumors of a family feud.

Brooklyn and Nicola Peltz Beckham are sharing the one rule that keeps their marriage strong.

In an interview with Glamour published on Monday, the celebrity couple spoke about their relationship and agreed that honesty is the most important thing that young couples need to build mutual trust.

"Always be honest. There's nothing worse than keeping things from each other," Brooklyn, 26, told Glamour. Brooklyn is the oldest child of David and Victoria Beckham.

Nicola, 30, added that honesty was a value that her parents had instilled in her from a young age. Her father is Nelson Peltz, the billionaire founder of investment firm Trian Fund Management.

"My parents always told me, 'Tell us the truth, and we'll help you.' That mindset has stayed with me. Whether it's with friends, family, or in a relationship β€” honesty builds trust, closeness, growth. Real connection only happens when you're brave enough to be honest," Nicola told Glamour.

The couple first met at the Coachella music festival in 2017, but only started dating in 2019. In 2022, they got married at the Peltz family estate in Palm Beach, Florida.

During the interview, the pair recalled being told to make space for a quiet moment together during their wedding day β€” something they now recommend to others.

"Step away, breathe, be together. Those were my favorite moments. Weddings can be intense, especially when you're busy making sure everyone else is having fun. That little break reminded us what it's really about: us," Nicola said.

Brooklyn added that they managed to sneak away after the wedding to share a private moment.

"We took a quick drive, just the two of us. It was perfect. Also: love each other, be honest, and always protect one another," he said.

Over the past weeks, speculation about a Beckham family feud has grown after the couple was missing from Instagram photos posted by his parents from multiple events celebrating David Beckham's 50th birthday.

So far, neither the couple nor any members of the Beckham family have addressed the speculation publicly.

Brooklyn and Nicola are also not the only celebrities who have spoken about the habits they practice that help keep their marriage strong.

Rob Lowe says he and his wife go to couples therapy regularly because "it's like taking your car in and making sure the engine's running great."

"Frasier" actor Kelsey Grammer says thinking of love as a "contact sport" helps keep the flame alive in his 14-year marriage.

Jay Shetty says he avoids talking about work over dinner with his wife, even though they have a joint business venture.

Representatives for the couple did not immediately respond to requests for comment sent by Business Insider outside regular hours.

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U.S. air quality hit as 204 wildfires burn across Canada

Wildfires in Canada have forced thousands of residents to evacuate in three provinces, impacting air quality in the U.S. β€”Β and smoke from the deadly fires has even blown across the Atlantic and reached the U.K.

The big picture: The U.S. announced Monday the deployment of 150 federal firefighting personnel to Canada to help tackle the escalating threat of the fires that researchers and officials say are being fueled by climate change.


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Wildfire smoke has overtaken skies above the Eastern United States. This time lapse shows the drifting smoke over the last three days.

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  • The fires that killed two people in Manitoba have been impacting air quality across the country and into the U.S. for days, with an alert issued for the entire state of Minnesota until 12pm Wednesday ET.

Threat level: Mandatory evacuation orders have been enacted in Manitoba, Saskatchewan and Alberta provinces β€”Β as Canadian Interagency Forest Fire Centre (CIFFC) data showed the number of fires across Canada grew to 204 by Monday night, with six new blazes igniting and 106 burning out of control.

  • The premiers of the western provinces of Manitoba and Saskatchewan both made 30-day provincial states of emergency declarations.

What they're saying: "This is the largest evacuation Manitoba will have seen in most people's living memory," Manitoba Premier Wab Kinew told reporters after over 17,000 residents were evacuated last Thursday.

  • "For the first time, it's not a fire in one region, we have fires in every region. That is a sign of a changing climate that we are going to have to adapt to."

Context: "Climate change is fueling devastating wildfires burning across Manitoba, Saskatchewan and Alberta through intensified heat, drought and atmospheric condition," per a Bluesky post by climate change policy research group the Canadian Climate Institute.

  • "Climate change is making wildfires bigger, hotter and more frequent in Canada, which is warming twice as fast as the global average."
  • The fires intensified during the last week of May as drought and atmospheric conditions collided with early season heat, per a report from Climate Central.
  • This made "high temperatures in parts of central Canada at least five times more likely than they would be in a world without climate change," according to the climate research group.

Editor's note: This a breaking news story. Please check back for updates.

Trump silent on Ukraine drone attacks as MAGA blames "Deep State"

MAGA influencers warned of dark forces at play β€”Β and the risk of dangerous escalation β€” as Ukraine celebrated a historic drone operation targeting Russia's bombing fleet.

Why it matters: President Trump has not publicly commented so far on Ukraine's stunning "Spiderweb" operation, in which more than 100 drones infiltrated air bases deep inside Russia and destroyed nuclear-capable bombers.


  • MAGA's alarm over Ukraine's attack β€” and comparative silence when Russia targets Ukrainian civilians β€” underscores the movement's deep skepticism of the Western-backed government in Kyiv.
  • While Trump seeks to present himself as a neutral mediator trying to bring broker peace, large swathes of his base see Ukraine β€” not Russia β€” as the enemy.

Driving the news: Ukraine's successful operation, which took 18 months to covertly plan, delivered a major strategic coup in a war that has otherwise been mired in stalemate and trench warfare.

  • As Ukrainians and their allies praised the breakthrough, some MAGA influencers expressed suspicion and anger that Kyiv had not informed Trump about the operation ahead of time.
  • At best, MAGA treated the attack as counterproductive to nascent peace talks; at worst, they feared an attempt by Ukraine and American "Deep State" actors to drag the U.S. further into the conflict.

State of play: Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky have failed so far to persuade Russian President Vladimir Putin to agree to a ceasefire. Peace talks at the staff level have yielded little progress beyond prisoner swaps.

  • Top Trump administration officials β€” including the president himself, at times β€” have warned that the U.S. could walk away from the conflict completely if talks do not advance.

What they're saying: Pro-Trump influencer Jack Posobiec speculated on Steve Bannon's "War Room" Monday about whether the Biden administration could have been involved in the operation, given that planning began 18 months ago.

  • "Seems very much on the interior of Russia. I sure hope America had nothing to do with it," said Charlie Kirk, a top MAGA activist with close White House ties.
  • Rogan O'Handley, who runs the popular DC Draino X account, alleged, without evidence, that the attack was "intentionally conducted to drag America into WW3."

Dan Caldwell, a former top Pentagon official who advocates for "America First" foreign policy, warned that the operation "raises risk of direct confrontation between Russia and NATO."

  • "U.S. should not only distance itself from this attack but end any support that could directly or indirectly enable attacks against Russian strategic nuclear forces," Caldwell wrote.

Between the lines: MAGA has been nothing if not consistent throughout the war, treating Zelensky as a "globalist" puppet and Ukraine as a backwater of corruption.

  • Zelensky and any Ukrainian military operations against Russian troops have been met with hostility from MAGA for years.
  • Meanwhile, Russian attacks on civilian infrastructure garner sporadic criticism from Trump, but mostly silence from his staunchest supporters.

The bottom line: Trump is facing pressure from multiple sides: Republican senators who want tougher sanctions on Russia, and an agitated MAGA base that sees Ukraine as the enemy.

Sam Altman said AI agents are acting like junior employees — and he's betting that your AI colleague could soon 'discover new knowledge'

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Sam Altman says that AI could soon help discover new knowledge and act like junior level workers.

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  • OpenAI CEO predicts AI will soon be able to "discover new knowledge" and solve business problems.
  • A study shows that AI is already replacing human workers.
  • Companies like Shopify and Duolingo are shifting away from human workers in favor of AI.

OpenAI CEO Sam Altman is betting that AI could soon help "discover new knowledge" and said it is already beginning to act like your junior-level coworkers.

"You hear people that talk about their job now is to assign work to a bunch of agents, look at the quality, figure out how it fits together, give feedback, and it sounds a lot like how they work with a team of still relatively junior employees," Altman said of AI agents on Monday during the Snowflake Summit 2025, in a conversation with Snowflake Computing CEO Sridhar Ramaswamy.

"I would bet next year that in some limited cases, at least in some small ways, we start to see agents that can help us discover new knowledge, or can figure out solutions to business problems that are kind of very non-trivial," Altman added.

The keynote conversation at Snowflake Summit β€” which explored how organizations can drive immediate impact with the power of AI β€” comes as new data show that AI is already replacing human workers.

Zanele Munyikwa, an economist at Revelio Labs, spoke to Business Insider's Aki Ito about her analysis of online job postings and the impact of AI since ChatGPT's release at the end of 2022. As Ito wrote, "She found that over the past three years, the share of AI-doable tasks in online job postings has declined by 19%." In roles Munyikwa pinpointed as more vulnerable to AI, such as database administrators and IT specialists, the hiring downturn has been as steep as 31%.

Over the past quarter, Shopify said that its managers need to explain why a job couldn't be handled by AI before asking for new hires, and Duolingo, the language learning app, said it would replace contract workers with AI.

In February, OpenAI launched GPT-4.5, which Altman called "the first model that feels like talking to a thoughtful person." He also described the model as "giant" and "expensive." The rollout is limited to Pro subscribers until the shortage of GPUs is solved.

OpenAI also recently launched Codex, a new AI agent aimed at streamlining coding tasks for developers by writing code, fixing bugs, and running tests. Altman said it was already in use by OpenAI's own engineers. Unlike traditional chatbots, the multitasking AI agent can also interact with external software to complete tasks like making a dinner reservation.

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Jewish lawmakers fear they're the next targets after Boulder, D.C. attacks

Jewish members of Congress are worried by a spate of attacks aimed at Jews β€” and are openly saying they may be next on the target list.

Why it matters: There has been a sharp rise in antisemitism and threats against lawmakers in recent years. For some Jewish representatives, the two trends are eerily correlated.


  • "The number of times in the course of a week I'm called a 'Jewish demon' is pretty unsettling," Rep. Greg Landsman (D-Ohio) told Axios.
  • Landsman said "most" Jewish members are "facing these very unsettling and potentially dangerous situations," pointing to the pro-Palestinian encampment that was erected outside his house in Cincinnati.

Driving the news: Capitol Hill was rocked last month when two Israeli embassy staffers were fatally shot outside an American Jewish Committee meeting at the Capital Jewish Museum in Washington, D.C.

  • The suspect, Elias Rodriguez, shouted "free, free Palestine" as he was arrested by police.
  • "I have had a hard time getting the image of being shot and killed out of my head. It happens almost every time I'm in a big crowd now," Landsman said in a statement after the shooting.
  • The incident came after a man who set fire to Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro's official residence cited the Jewish governor's stance on the war in Gaza as a factor.

State of play: Concerns about Jewish safety spiked again this week after a man yelling "free Palestine" threw Molotov cocktails at attendees of a Boulder, Colorado, rally advocating for the release of hostages held by Hamas.

  • The attack left at least eight people β€” four women and four men, aged 52 to 88 β€” hospitalized.

What they're saying: Rep. Brad Schneider (D-Ill.) said in a phone interview that he "increased our investment in security" after the D.C. attack.

  • "It's a dangerous world," he told Axios. "I will not let this become normal ... and I will not let this force me to back away or fail to do what I need to do representing all my constituents in the 10th district."
  • Rep. Steve Cohen (D-Tenn.) said: "I've always thought we were in jeopardy and jeopardized when we were on the Capitol campus."
  • And Rep. Laura Friedman (D-Calif.) added: "The Jewish community is very much on edge ... and elected officials in general, I think, are feeling less safe."

Zoom out: Beyond their personal safety, several lawmakers previewed a renewed push to fund the Nonprofit Safety Grant Program, particularly to provide security for houses of worship and faith-based organizations.

  • "We certainly need more funding there given the number of ... threats [religious institutions] are facing," said Rep. Josh Gottheimer (D-N.J.).
  • The NSGP has been underfunded for years and has recently been caught up in the Trump administration's efforts to cut federal expenditures.
  • Landsman said the Trump administration "has to get these grant dollars out quicker" and that Congress "has to seriously consider taking up something around investing in law enforcement."

Marc Maron, the podcasting OG, is calling it quits, citing burnout

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Marc Maron said he plans to end his "WTF" podcast in the fall.

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  • Marc Maron says he plans to end his "WTF" podcast later this year.
  • Maron cited burnout and said, "It's OK to end things."
  • "WTF" launched in 2009 and featured guests like former President Barack Obama and David Letterman.

One of the original podcasters is hanging up his mic.

Marc Maron, host of the podcast "WTF with Marc Maron," announced on his Monday episode that he and his longtime producer, Brendan McDonald, plan to end the comedy and interview podcast later this year.

"We have put up a new show every Monday and Thursday for almost 16 years, and we're tired. We're burnt out. And we are utterly satisfied with the work we've done," he said.

Maron, an actor and comedian, said he and McDonald mutually agreed it was time to end the show.

"We both realized together that we were done," he said, adding, "It's OK to end things. It's OK to try to start some other chapter in your life."

The final episode of the podcast would be sometime in the fall, Maron said.

"WTF" did not respond to a request for comment from Business Insider.

"WTF with Marc Maron" launched in 2009, when podcasts were largely unheard of, and has hosted guests ranging from former President Barack Obama to David Letterman over its more than 1,600 episodes. The episode that aired on Monday featured comedian John Mulaney.

The podcast industry is growing and was worth more than $30 billion in 2025, according to the market research firm Mordor Intelligence.

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